To think JK Rowling is a fabulous human being

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I just came across her book, 'Very Good Lives' which is all about overcoming adversity. I think it's so important that successful women talk about the times they've failed and how success is about pushing past that. I'm reading it just at a time I need to hear that message. I can definitely recommend buying a copy if you are in need of a boost or have some pennies to spend on something nourishing.

I was also looking into her charity, Lumos, and I had no idea just how much she was trying to help disadvantaged children. I love that she's putting her money and position to good use.

The term 'national treasure' generally makes me want to poke my own eyeballs out with a rusty kitchen utensil but AIBU to say she is an utter treasure and we are lucky to have her. She makes the world a better place.

That's all!

Sorry. i retract that. i am confusing her with someone else..

I think she's fabulous too and good on her for being brave enough to address the erasure of women.

It saddens me to see so many of her HP actors wading in to speak against her.

I also don't expect people are aware that violent crimes (including rape) are being recorded as having been committed by women. Even if the man declare himself a woman after committing the crime

And often these are offenders without GRCs.

The ridiculous thing - or the totally offensive thing - is that in English law, rape can only be committed by a penis - obviously with a man using it.

@RuffleCrow

This thread is attracting the wokebeards, as I'm sure you anticipated, but don't let that dissuade you OP. I'd put money on 100% of genuine MNers, or near enough, agreeing with you, and I'm one of them.

So you just want an echo chamber?

She’s fabulous. A great role model for girls and women. I deeply admire her.

Many trans men have said they don’t wish to be referred to as women, even if they do menstruate.

Do they like being referred to as "menstruators"? If TW are anything to go by, any reference to biological reality - however oblique - is hurtful enough to push them to mass suicide. Do we assume that TM are the same - because if so, TW calling them "menstruators" must be highly offensive.

(But of course, they are only women so that doesn't matter . . . )

Once that process is done,the penis is removed etc and you have your gender change cert then bob's your uncle

Or your auntie . . .

Someone tweeted Emma Watson:

'You were great in Little Menstruators'.

Class!

Here is where I am on this

Much is going on the world , and most pertinently BLM , COVID 19 , gender imbalance and global warming - and there is more

With BLM Especially I see it , I experience it , I see directly how this impacts people, the pain

With the trans issue , I can honestly say it Doesn’t impacts me personally

Whilst many female and feminist issues DO impact me I am struggling to reconcile the NOISE around this versus the actuality

I’m sorry if this offends anyone , but despite dealing with a huge range of shit - I don’t understand the volume of noise when not a single person I know is impacted by this

@Thisisworsethananticpated

Here is where I am on this

Much is going on the world , and most pertinently BLM , COVID 19 , gender imbalance and global warming - and there is more

With BLM Especially I see it , I experience it , I see directly how this impacts people, the pain

With the trans issue , I can honestly say it Doesn’t impacts me personally

Whilst many female and feminist issues DO impact me I am struggling to reconcile the NOISE around this versus the actuality

I’m sorry if this offends anyone , but despite dealing with a huge range of shit - I don’t understand the volume of noise when not a single person I know is impacted by this

You are okay with bad things happening as long as they don’t happen to you...okay then.

Biology matters. Firstly: Biology is material reality. One should never be forced to deny material reality.

Biology shapes every experience that every woman has, from good to indifferent and in many cases very bad indeed.

You cannot protect women and girls (who absolutely do need protection, and always will) if you do not know what female is. Without a legal biological definition of womanhood, every single societal and legal right and protection you now have will no longer apply, on any level. Think about that.

As to the topic of this thread: YES! A formidable woman, strong, brave, unbowed.

And it goes without saying that this is only one of many very important issues to be constantly dealt with, talked about, agitated for or against, and challenged, across the board and in every aspect of the human experience, wherever one’s personal experience lies.

Thisisworsethananticipated the BLM movement doesn't directly affect me, or many people that I know. I'm white, in a predominantly white area.

Does that mean I should disbelieve the people who are so very, very angry? Say 'I just don't get it' in a shruggy, doubtful tone?

Would that not make me a bit of a dick?

I'm not a fan of her books but omg yes as a woman she has my 100% backing. It was her being pilloried by trans women that finally prompted me today to "come out" on FB as GC.

Also want to put on this thread: I am a MASSIVE fan of her books. I think she is a truly wonderful writer.

Given the very small number of transsexuals , and then the % within that group who are acting like aresholes - I struggle to get my head around the actual number of people genuinely impacted

Is the anger theoretical , or due to RL events and aggressions

And I think the noise and aggression towards JK is disgusting , aggressive and adds toxicity to an already toxic world

But genuinely curious

Ps as ever I ask a question and a get called a ‘Dick’ - always the same aggression on these threads

I love her. She's brilliant.

Woman is a biological reality. It is not a feeling in man's head.

You are not thinking higher level enough.

It’s not about those men who aren’t being ‘arseholes’ as you put it (I would say who aren’t predatory, rapists, killers). It never is.

And no one called you a dick. Someone asked you what I think is a very valid question.

Tens of thousands of women and girls in this country are harmed in some way by men every year. Millions and millions throughout the world. Those men should not be allowed into women’s spaces, regardless of how they identify, what they feel like, what they want, how they look or choose to dress, or what title they have thought of to describe themselves, or misappropriated.

As there is absolutely no way of sorting the good from the indifferent from the very bad indeed, all men must be excluded.

Even if there was a way to sort and define and establish that all the relevant men were good, decent, kind men, they still should not be allowed to enter women’s spaces, because a male presence, however benign, is very directly harmful to a certain number of women. A male presence, however benign, is not comfortable for women and girls in their very private, vulnerable spaces. Decent men all know this. Which is why they do not want to be in women’s spaces.

No - JKR is just another celebrity who likes the sound of her own voice on Twitter - no better or worse than any other celebrity.

I struggle to get my head around the actual number of people genuinely impacted

That is because a lot of very caring, determined, clever women have been trying to keep a lid on this situation in the last few years on behalf of women like you who can't see how this affects them. They aren't necessarily going to totally succeed in their aims because the trans lobby is so powerful. It depends on people like JK shining light on the debate so more can understand just what is going on.

Hospitals, prisons and schools have all already been impacted and we're just at the beginning of changes being made.

Food for thought
I mean that , appreciate the answers

@Thisisworsethananticpated

Given the very small number of transsexuals , and then the % within that group who are acting like aresholes - I struggle to get my head around the actual number of people genuinely impacted

Is the anger theoretical , or due to RL events and aggressions

And I think the noise and aggression towards JK is disgusting , aggressive and adds toxicity to an already toxic world

But genuinely curious

Ps as ever I ask a question and a get called a ‘Dick’ - always the same aggression on these threads

I am not sure that you are aware that recently Stonewall opened up the definition of transgender. Transsexuals that you are thinking about, who protest that the activism being done, partly in their name, are called trumscum and are as abused as any women is, or man if you look at an ally like Gary Lineham.

I have seen stonewalls estimates that this number might be 500,000. Many of my friends here have a trans member of staff that they know.

Broadly in the same vein, here is another point I would like to make, again a comment of mine from another thread.

Yes. Absolutely. Women do NOT have to have suffered sexual abuse, predatory behaviour, violence, rape or in fact any harm at all, in order to be entitled to protection from potentially suffering those things. It is enough to say no, I am not okay with this. I do not consent. My daughters do not consent. My sisters, my mother, my friends, women I don’t know and will never meet, do not consent. NO.

Women do not want men in their spaces.

The vast majority of men do not want to be in women’s spaces.

That does not take away from the rights of transgender individuals. They have every right to live peacefully without fear from harm. But they cannot gain that end by appropriating spaces that are sex-segregated in order to protect women’s dignity, privacy and safety.

There is always tension when it comes to rights and protections. It is a balancing act.

Yes, as wines has said, please read up on what now falls under the ‘trans’ umbrella.

It’s a lot to take in. Keep reading. There will be more.

The only people who damage the lives of TW's are the mouthy ones who keep being hostile to women.

I never had any issue with Tw people until they want to take away my right to a safe place/space.

I have been raped in the past and experienced the fear of being a vulnerable woman.
When I was young and attractive I felt as thought i had a target painted on me and began to dress as badly as possible to hide my shape.

I want men to be kept out of changing rooms and toilets. If you have a penis you are a man.

If you like being hostile to women who are fabulous like JKR then you are a man. Because you cannot bear to see a woman be so successful and caring.
A real TW would be just getting on with their lives and not claiming victimhood all the damm time.
Us women who want a private space for women are not endangering you.In fact if you had any sense a safe space for women also protects TW. The ones who have committed by having surgery and hormone to transform