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To think JK Rowling is a fabulous human being

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TheAdventuresoftheWishingChair · 08/06/2020 08:49

I just came across her book, 'Very Good Lives' which is all about overcoming adversity. I think it's so important that successful women talk about the times they've failed and how success is about pushing past that. I'm reading it just at a time I need to hear that message. I can definitely recommend buying a copy if you are in need of a boost or have some pennies to spend on something nourishing.

I was also looking into her charity, Lumos, and I had no idea just how much she was trying to help disadvantaged children. I love that she's putting her money and position to good use.

The term 'national treasure' generally makes me want to poke my own eyeballs out with a rusty kitchen utensil but AIBU to say she is an utter treasure and we are lucky to have her. She makes the world a better place.

That's all!

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PennyNotSoWise · 08/06/2020 13:44

@sunshinesupermum

From what I've seen, it's the exact opposite.

Care to elaborate fully, PennyNotSoWise?

JKR is receiving death and rape threats. I'd feel in genuine danger if I were subject to that.

How does saying that women menstruate in any way endanger anyone's life? To suggest so is purely idiotic.

ConkerGame · 08/06/2020 13:44

I think she’s brilliant and I’m so grateful to her for using her platform to promote women’s rights and to try to protect female spaces. It can’t be easy to do that when receiving so many violent threats. Horrible horrible trans lobbyists, truly revolting behaviour.

Vargas · 08/06/2020 13:45

She's an amazing woman who stands up for what she believes in, particularly women's rights. Love her!

Mistressiggi · 08/06/2020 13:45

I don't know enough to know if she is a fabulous human being. She's bang to rights on this topic though.

Clymene · 08/06/2020 13:45

God there really is nothing more cringeworthy than women describing a bunch of white people with male privilege as the most marginalised while denigrating a woman for writing books which weren't as woke as they are.

Embarrassing

BlueBlazerBlack · 08/06/2020 13:48

@yelyah22 it is entirely possible that her timing is to do with recent changes in the legal definition of 'woman' in Scotland, a country in which J.K. lives, incidentally.

It is also possible to care and comment on more than one issue at any given time.

Also, please do provide examples of posters claiming to be transphobes on this site... I think you'll find transphobic comments are swiftly deleted (and rightly so).

maudspellbody · 08/06/2020 13:49

Peach Green
Can you explain how she is 'endangering people's lives' please? I've heard this said a lot and I don't really understand it.

PrincessConsuelaVaginaHammock · 08/06/2020 13:50

[quote CaveMum]@PrincessConsuelaVaginaHammock on a similar line the appropriation of the Native American traditions, I saw this morning that the fabulous FondofBeetles (she’s on here sometimes isn’t she?) had retweeted a thread about the trans trope that sex is a white colonial concept. Here: twitter.com/therestofus5/status/1109526326006800384?s=21[/quote]
A great thread. Naturally the wokebros were having none of it.

Clymene · 08/06/2020 13:52

Are these the sort of abhorrent things you mean @yelyah22?

Humans can not change sex
The word women means adult human females
Only women bleed
Women and girls deserve single sex spaces for their privacy, dignity and safety
Sex based rights are enshrined in law

ShieldingNotJailed · 08/06/2020 13:58

I love the Ickabog and it has been a real treat for dc at a really difficult time Grin

www.theickabog.com/home/

Thisismytimetoshine · 08/06/2020 13:58

Women who fit her own version of womanhood, that is).
No. Just women. We all know what a woman is, Yelyah
All of us.

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Ickabog · 08/06/2020 14:02

[quote ShieldingNotJailed]I love the Ickabog and it has been a real treat for dc at a really difficult time Grin

www.theickabog.com/home/[/quote]
I'm please you're enjoying my story. Wink

Ickabog · 08/06/2020 14:03

Pleased

yelyah22 · 08/06/2020 14:04

I assume that you mean me, @Clymene?

God there really is nothing more cringeworthy than women describing a bunch of white people with male privilege as the most marginalised

Trans women are are 1.6 more likely to be subject to physical violent, 1.6 more times more likely to experience sexual violence, and 1.4 more likely to be subject to hate crimes in public places than other victims of hate crimes. 9% of trans people are attacked every year for being trans. Almost 50% of trans people are sexually assaulted over their life. 65% experience homelessness at some point. More than half experience domestic violence or coercive control.

I'm not saying that trans people haven't, in their lives, benefited from male-passing privilege, I'm saying that - once out as trans, and often before - they experience disproportionately high levels of abuse and hate crime (not that there should be any proportionate level of either). We can acknowledge that AFAB women also experience violence and harm in a way which is devastating and widespread, but to acknowledge that trans people suffer marginalisation isn't taking anything away from that.

yelyah22 · 08/06/2020 14:05

What IS a woman, exactly, please, @Thisismytimetoshine? What precise definition are you using? Genuine question.

CherryValanc · 08/06/2020 14:05

PennyNotSoWise

"JK Rowling is not 'anti-trans' and the claim that she is 'using her huge platform of followers to promote ideas which endanger the lives and wellbeing of trans people' is defamatory.

It's also utter bollocks, I'd be very interested in an example of how stating that it's women who menstruate endangers someones life."

From what I've seen, it's the exact opposite

Exact opposite? So:
JK Rowling is 'pro-trans' and the denial that she isn't using her tiny pit of leaders to demote facts which protect the deaths and distressed of non-trans people' is complementary.^

It isn't dissimilarly partial truth, I'd'nt be neglagibly uninterested in an antithesis of how ending that it isn't men who don't menstruate protects nobodies death.

Very Nineteen Eighty-Four doublespeak sounding.

Or do you mean you've seen someone's life endanger by women menstruating? Killed by a heavy flow?

Can you ever explain your soundbites?

yelyah22 · 08/06/2020 14:07

Also, I said 'one of the most marginalised'. Not THE most. It's not a fucking competition, but blowing your dogwhistle to those who ARE transphobic (and not 'just' gender critical - it appears we disagree that there's a difference there, but whatever!) is a pretty shoddy way to use your enormous platform.

TooOldForSims · 08/06/2020 14:09

why did she feel the need to take shots at one of the most marginalised groups of people in society?

In what way are trans people marginalised?

Mistressiggi · 08/06/2020 14:09

We can acknowledge that AFAB women also experience violence and harm in a way which is devastating and widespread, but to acknowledge that trans people suffer marginalisation isn't taking anything away from that.
And yet, even in your use of phrases like "AFAB" you are taking something away from that.
Where are those stats from by the way, is that Uk?

TooOldForSims · 08/06/2020 14:10

Also, I said 'one of the most marginalised'

Who are the other groups?

BlueBlazerBlack · 08/06/2020 14:10

@yelyah22 I think we'd all be interested in your definition of woman.

Mine is: adult human female, or if you like, human belonging to the female sex class that produces the large gametes (eggs) and has XX chromosomes.

Please provide yours Smile

yelyah22 · 08/06/2020 14:11

I found the definition of 'woman' as: a female human being.

I found the definition of 'female', to clarify, as: "of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes.".

So by this definition, women born without ovaries, that cannot bear offspring, or cannot produce eggs, aren't female. What are they, then? Surely you can see that using very strict descriptions is harmful for the people who fall outside of them?

TooOldForSims · 08/06/2020 14:11

@yelyah22

What IS a woman, exactly, please, *@Thisismytimetoshine*? What precise definition are you using? Genuine question.
The biological definition.
AtrociousCircumstance · 08/06/2020 14:11

But JK isn’t refuting the abuse trans people go through and she said she’d march beside them against their discrimination.

She’s just stating facts in the name of women’s rights.

Trans rights and women’s rights are different.

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