To wonder why schools are saying they’re not allowed to do live lessons

[Plinkplonkplank]

Because they’ve just started doing them at my ds’s state secondary. We had to fill in an online permission form. So it is possible after all.

mbosnz

I am glad you are feeling supported with your dcs education. I don't agree with the post you quoted, but I know many state school parents who are really angry. My dniece certainly isn't getting the level of support that you describe.

My 14 year old and his peers feel immensely abandoned. And they have.
There was no provisions at all to include a large cohort of secondary schoolers. Still isn’t.

A lot of schools are still following government guidelines of protecting the mental health of students, families and staff.

Government suspended learning when they closed the schools and will continue when all schools are fully open.

Only thing I’m annoyed about is that years 6’s are prioritised now and will still be at the detriment to many of those already in secondary school. Year 6’’S can catch up quicker than the older ones in gcse years.

All the people on here moaning could join their local home education group perhaps? Be proative. There is a large home education community in the Uk who have home educated for years and years. Their children still manage to survive life. Also stop teacher bashing as you have no idea what they have had to do, I speak of secondary only, I know one of my kids is a teacher had her workload massively increased by this. I bet a lot of the people moaning are furloughed, so getting money for being on holiday, and have no right to criticise those who are still working and have been through out.

For those who have children of school age and were counting on the school system to educate them I send my heartfelt best wishes. I really do feel for you and your kids and think each of you should now abandon the schools, as if they aren't providing the services then why should they all be getting paid? They've clearly abandoned your kids, because to them it's just a paycheck after all.
Same old goading.
Same old stupid generalisations that are no use to anyone genuinely seeking advice on how to resolve an issue with a school, and only serve to be inflammatory.

Home education is as privileged as being able to privately educate. I'm not sure that's any kind of solution at all.

Just wondering if anyone would like to have a go at teachers for the collapse of wider primary opening?

We may as well get it out of the way.

Oh yes smile plenty want to have a go. There’s already a couple of additional threads.
Teacher bashing should have its own board!

@Noconceptofnormal your username is apt.

For those who say their broadband connection isn't good enough, the teachers at my dc's school did the lessons from the school, problem solved.

Our school PCs are desktops with no we cams or microphones. Teachers have more tech at home (that they have paid for themselves).

For those who say the have children to look after at home, well they don't have to as schools and nurseries are open to keyworkers' children.

Many of our staff rely on grandparents for childcare. This is currently still banned. Local nurseries have shut because it is financially viable to claim furlough over opening with few children.

For those concerned about what might happen in the background of some people's homes. Here's a few things - teachers can mute particular children or even the whole class if this is an issue and turn off cameras if necessary. Plus if it was a choice between the school providing teaching but my child potentially hearing another parent swear, I'd still take the teaching.

I'm happy to go live myself, I do not want to see my students homes at all.

For those concerned about teachers ending up being filmed or on memes etc... Really, how big a problem is this really? Maybe in a few rough secondaries but I don't think this would be wide spread any more than a child filming a teacher in school and doing it. I just don't believe it.

This academic year alone our pastoral staff have had to report and get closed down 5 Instagram and Facebook accounts with memes and photos of teachers. These are the ones we know about. There are likely many more out there. Pre the up skirting law I was upskirted by a student and the photo sent. I had absolutely no legal options against the student at all. You are naive to think taking photos of staff and editing them is rare. This happened to me in a very middle class outstanding school.

For those who say children don't have enough laptops etc at home, again I don't believe this is an issue for the vast majority of children, most people have a tablet or smartphone they could use (a couple of times my dc did their lesson using my smartphone when I couldn't get the broadband to work). For the minority that don't, I think a plea to the community for donations of old laptops or tablets would have been responded to, loans from the schools, people raising money for this would have all happened

56% of our students only have one none phone device per household. 87% have no access to a non phone during school hours. 26% rely on mobile data and 38% have an unlimited broadband plan. The government have sent 7 laptops to share between a school of approx 1000 students.

Hercwasonaroll

Sorry herc but you have apparently just "attacked" Noconceptofnormal* by pointing out the problems with her points.

And frankly when we have got to the stage when trying to enter discourse with someone is seen by them as an attack there is really no point.

Only thing I’m annoyed about is that years 6’s are prioritised now and will still be at the detriment to many of those already in secondary school. Year 6’’S can catch up quicker than the older ones in gcse years

Well have a look at the CV board and see how loud the year 6 parents were bleeding about Timmy not having a year end play or weeks adventure or signed T-shirt’s.

They shouted loudest. The government listened.

Oh we all know who the government listened to and didn’t.

I’ve worked and homeschooled in the past. Hard oh damn yea it was. But like another poster pointed out the home schooling network is amazing and not tied to school hours was extremely beneficial.

I had to do it before my son was assessed years ago. First weeks in secondary he was permanently excluded this was a logical desperate step. No one would look after him. He thrived through the home school network and even when he became eligible for the right school we stuck with it.

And not every child has access. There are over a million homes in the U.K. that have no access at all the the net. No smart phones or anything.

A question for teachers on this thread.

I’m presuming schools won’t be open in Sept and even if they are, it will be in a very limited capacity.

My kid’s school isn’t one of the ones with hood teachers and even prior to lockdown I was doing some work at home.
Since lockdown, I have fumbled forwards using a mixture of online schools, worksheets, youtube, schoolbooks that I bought online and so on. I’m taking parts from everything to attempt to teach new concepts.
However I’m not following any path.

Where can I find the whole curriculum for specific years so I can plan out the next year to ensure I can cover everything although I will absolutely put most effort into English, writing and maths. I’d like to cover some Geography and history too though.

I need the whole curriculum and every topic that would have otherwise been covered in school. Is this available anywhere online?

Thanks

Teachers don't even have t be seen, some lessons have been conducted very successfully just by typing! And access to student work as they work.
Strict registration etc. It's been amazing.

I don't see how arguments agaisnt any form of of live teaching work?

It's being done in many ways very successfully already by many settings.

So how can they do it'?

Some places have extremely vulnerable, poor, students. They manage??

Anyway, now I've personally gone through the fire of floundering around wondering what the hell to do I feel so much more in tune and engaged with my dd learning.

I'm now looking at this period as a catch up on 3 years of being failed by her school.
I'm shocked at how little progress she has made there in 3 years and yet at home, something seems to be clicking and she's starting to fly. It must be having 1:1 and just someone explaining what is required.. We only do about 10 mins a day. And about half a basic book that's just actually below the expected reading age.

sitting this is what we work from...all subjects and ages.

www.gov.uk/government/collections/national-curriculum

sitting - what year group?

Im looking for Y1 and Y3. Thanks

I may need to rephrase - I’m looking for a breakdown of each subject.
Eg maths by topic -
Multiplication of 2, 5, 10
Measurement - cm, mm

That sort of thing so I can plan out the year month by month.

@Swiftsseason

Please could you (via DM) send me the names of any schools with high levels of deprivation that are regularly delivering online lessons? Could you also please tell me how they are managing this in a way that the majority of students can access? Ideas to take to my SLT would be good as we can't get many of ours online during school hours.

sitting you might need various sources to help you.
Try White Rose Maths website and fb page.

Sittingontheveranda

The link Pleasance posted has it all in there.

This is the maths programme of study, showing what is required in each year.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachmentdata/file/335158/PRIMARYYnationalcurriculumm-Mathematicss_220714.pdf

www.gov.uk/government/publications/national-curriculum-in-england-english-programmes-of-study/national-curriculum-in-england-english-programmes-of-study#year-1-programme-of-study

This is English Y1, for example.

sitting
I’m a secondary teacher but since lockdown I’ve been using this to teach my own dc (y1 and y5)
www.cgpbooks.co.uk/primary-resources
The checklists are useful so you know where they should be by the end of each year.

PleasancePark and Cuckoo thank you.