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Did any teachers have it easy over last 11 weeks?

701 replies

PicaK · 02/06/2020 20:25

I nearly lost my shit yesterday with someone who insisted most teachers have had an easy life and not doing a proper day's work during Covid.
I'm not a teacher but many friends are and I don't know any who haven't had a full workload. It's absolutely not the message that's coming across on social media either. Most teachers saying they've done more work.
But then I wondered if my snapshot was accurate.
Does anyone personally know any teacher who has coasted/had an easy ride? (I am not talking about your kids' teachers who you have opinions about but friends or family where you have more insight.)
I'm hoping it's a no tbh and I feel justified for feeling so put out.
Aibu
Yes - yeah the teachers I know have had it easy
No - you're right all the ones I know have worked as much if not more.

OP posts:
GazeboParty · 08/06/2020 22:30

Oh dear.
I hope you don't talk to children with that mouth. Fucking hell not another one - you do know you're not at school? I know plenty of teachers who enjoy a good swear - not one of them? I don't give a shit!😂 but you think foul mouthed parents are a good diversion from crap lazy teachers..nice try!😁

Myothercarisalsoshit · 08/06/2020 22:31

Teacher's pay scales are a matter of public record.

Sittingontheveranda · 08/06/2020 22:32

Myothercarisalsoshit Pleasant as usual I see. Please feel free to ignore my posts.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 08/06/2020 22:32

@Sittingontheveranda Manchester lets assume M6 £35,000.

15 years experience means nothing. It depends if that person has gone through upper pay scale, has any extra responsibilities etc.

Are you happy?

Myothercarisalsoshit · 08/06/2020 22:33

@GazeboParty

Oh dear. I hope you don't talk to children with that mouth. Fucking hell not another one - you do know you're not at school? I know plenty of teachers who enjoy a good swear - not one of them? I don't give a shit!😂 but you think foul mouthed parents are a good diversion from crap lazy teachers..nice try!😁
It's no wonder children don't behave in school is it? tsk tsk! Vulgar parents.
StaffAssociationRepresentative · 08/06/2020 22:34

@Sittingontheveranda we do not get paid holidays but our salary is spread over 12 months

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 08/06/2020 22:35

@GazeboParty I am not a lazy crap teacher thank you very much. I have been rated as outstanding in each OFSTED inspection and I achieve ALPS 3 for my subject at A Level

GazeboParty · 08/06/2020 22:35

Can you all just stop putting all teachers together with generalised statements We are talking about personal rather than generalised statements.
You are not in charge here - that must be hard for you - we can discuss what we like - it's an open forum for adults not school - flexibility in the face of change?

Sittingontheveranda · 08/06/2020 22:37

Manchester lets assume M6 £35,000

15 years experience means nothing. It depends if that person has gone through upper pay scale, has any extra responsibilities etc.

Are you happy?

I feel happier I suppose. A family member teaches in Manchester. She left another city to move there following a relationship breakup. She certainly had a lot of extra responsibilities in the job she left behind so I hope they stood to her when she moved and she is earning enough to get by okay. Thank you.

Myothercarisalsoshit · 08/06/2020 22:37

This is all getting a bit psychadelic now.
You're not in charge here
Somebody has a bit of a problem with authority!
Aaaaah.

Jellycatspyjamas · 08/06/2020 22:38

Between me, my friends (parents and teachers) and family I’m aware of what’s being offered in around 10 different schools, and none of the schools are offering extra curricular activities, inter house competitions or online assemblies.

My kids school are putting materials online so I can do my own assembly with my two children, and are using programmes like sumdog for inter class maths competitions but very very little dynamic content. My friends DS gets feedback on completed assignments, otherwise lots of pointing parents to online resources.

As much as you say it’s a generalisation yo say most teachers aren’t working much, it’s equally a vast generalisation to say they all are, because they aren’t.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 08/06/2020 22:39

@GazeboParty but I am adapted my teaching really well. I use Teams, on line quizzes, have online collaborative workspaces.

I am rather tech-tastic!

Sittingontheveranda · 08/06/2020 22:39

we do not get paid holidays but our salary is spread over 12 months

I figured this must be the case. Its the same in many jobs that offer term time.

GazeboParty · 08/06/2020 22:41

@Myothercarisalsoshit well you know I have no worries there - never have my kids had a bad report - a delight to teach I'm told, hard working well behaved etc. I've clearly have not been that bad an influence 😂maybe you need to read up a bit more your amateur psychology seems a bit out of date.

Jellycatspyjamas · 08/06/2020 22:41

Somebody has a bit of a problem with authority!

No, just a problem with you thinking you have authority here perhaps?

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 08/06/2020 22:42

@Sittingontheveranda - depends upon whether she got a job with similar responsibilities. There is not pay portability between schools so though someone maybe on the Upper Pay Scale 3 range in one school in the next school they may only offer M6.

It is very tricky for experienced teachers to move around.

GazeboParty · 08/06/2020 22:42

@StaffAssociationRepresentative good for you! Welcome to the new world.

Myothercarisalsoshit · 08/06/2020 22:43

[quote GazeboParty]@Myothercarisalsoshit well you know I have no worries there - never have my kids had a bad report - a delight to teach I'm told, hard working well behaved etc. I've clearly have not been that bad an influence 😂maybe you need to read up a bit more your amateur psychology seems a bit out of date.[/quote]
There's an obvious answer but quite frankly I can't be arsed.

Myothercarisalsoshit · 08/06/2020 22:45

@Jellycatspyjamas

Somebody has a bit of a problem with authority!

No, just a problem with you thinking you have authority here perhaps?

That was to Gazebo. Or are you one and the same person?
Dissimilitude · 08/06/2020 22:46

I'm sure it's been difficult to adapt etc, but I can't help contrast what I saw and read about in places like Wuhan (where kids more or less had full online teaching during the lockdown) to the fact that both my kids are done with their entire allocated work inside of an hour each day.

Then there's the relentless self congratulatory patting on the back the local head is giving herself and her staff, with the constant emphasis on "children's mental health and wellbeing during a difficult time, we are here to support them".

I just feel like shouting "no, I'm the parent - I'll worry about their mental wellbeing. Can you just teach them some fucking English and Maths please".

Many teachers no doubt working hard etc, but from where I'm sitting my kids are losing out on a ton of education, and from the chatter I hear from the local authority there's been some kind of decision not to move forward with any kind of new teaching, because basically they can't guarantee every child will get it in these conditions. So all are held back. I can scarcely believe that, but it tallies with what I see with my own eyes.

I look around and I see all sorts of essential jobs bending over backwards to continue a normal service in the current climate, and teaching seems utterly hidebound and innovation-less.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 08/06/2020 22:46

@GazeboParty - yes of course people can discuss what they like. I can also point out errors in some of the generalisations. So not all teachers are lazy and crap eg moi!

Dissimilitude · 08/06/2020 22:46

I do see that many teachers have adapted wonderfully, so no doubt I am facing a particular local problem etc.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 08/06/2020 22:48

@GazeboParty Thanks. I came out of IT industry late into teaching.

I have been asked to teach a bit of Computing next year but not really that keen on doing it. I would rather do maths for those few periods

Jellycatspyjamas · 08/06/2020 22:55

That was to Gazebo. Or are you one and the same person?

It’s a public message board, anyone can answer, so I did. HTH

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