Did any teachers have it easy over last 11 weeks?

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I nearly lost my shit yesterday with someone who insisted most teachers have had an easy life and not doing a proper day's work during Covid.
I'm not a teacher but many friends are and I don't know any who haven't had a full workload. It's absolutely not the message that's coming across on social media either. Most teachers saying they've done more work.
But then I wondered if my snapshot was accurate.
Does anyone personally know any teacher who has coasted/had an easy ride? (I am not talking about your kids' teachers who you have opinions about but friends or family where you have more insight.)
I'm hoping it's a no tbh and I feel justified for feeling so put out.
Aibu
Yes - yeah the teachers I know have had it easy
No - you're right all the ones I know have worked as much if not more.

It's clear to me that most teachers in state schools are doing very little at the moment.

I’ve been looking after keyworker children, working FT from home and now teaching FT at school. You’ve seen on this thread that many others are too. It’s certainly not “most” who aren’t working.

Online lessons aren’t appropriate because:

a) we don’t have the budget to pay for an iPad / laptop for every child that needs one
b) families have told us they want to do schooling to their own schedule to allow for multiple children and adults all working from home and trying to timetable around each other
c) Many teachers are parents and need to timetable their work around their children’s needs as well.
d) IT’S NOT TEACHING. It may be possible to lecture online. It’s not possible to do proper teaching.

d) IT’S NOT TEACHING. It may be possible to lecture online. It’s not possible to do proper teaching.

Well someone wants to tell the Scottish government that because I’m being told 60% of my children’s lessons will take place online from August - which I would expect to include some form of teaching.

Yep teachers contracts (or payslips) are usually between 29.75 and 35 hours a week.

They do at least twice that!

@jellycatspyjamas It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out! I’m not convinced it’ll be much more than a lecture personally, very difficult to dynamically assess and adapt under those circumstances. I’m just glad I’m back in the classroom.

Jelly the government set up the oak academy. They know not everyone is getting same from schools as keyworker kids and vulnerable umbers differentiate and so staff on site varies.
So there is a government education programme available to all. Granted it's not 6 hours a day with a teacher but coronavirus has fucked everything up and not just education.

Out of interest what is the average primary school teacher's salary with over five years experience? over ten year's service? over fifteen year's service?

@VashtaNerada Only one of your excuses applies to us - with using Loom d) IT’S NOT TEACHING. It may be possible to lecture online. It’s not possible to do proper teaching. But it's better than fucking nothing. Jesus some of you teachers are so fucking obtuse - excuse after excuse. Can't do attitude - I hope you keep it to yourselves normally, you don't sound very flexible in a changing world.

I'm a teacher and I do feel i've had it easy. I do my work in one stint with a lovely cup of tea and pure and absolute silence. Nothing like my normal day. I've wanted to do zoom class calls but slt has said no!

It also doesn’t reflect the Scottish curriculum, which is a shame - I do use some of the lessons but I also don’t want to confuse my kids by changing their curriculum mid-year.

@sittingontheveranda that very much depends... are you talking inner / out London / fringe / elsewhere/ have they gone through MPS on UPS onto leadership/ do they have a TLR/SEN ?

You need to be specific

It's clear to me that most teachers in state schools are doing very little at the moment.

How is this clear? How do you know?

As a state school teacher myself, with children of my own in a different state school, this is not a picture I recognise at all.

Teachers do not automatically go up through pay scales with longevity of service. That approach was done away with years ago. Also there is no pay portability

Yep teachers contracts (or payslips) are usually between 29.75 and 35 hours a week.

They do at least twice that!

Definitely not happening in our school or any in our local towns just now - we had a letter from 15 HTs telling us not to expect too much and to stop comparing - people on social media lie - so they would say all the teachers on here that are working hard are not being truthful - we should expect very little - a list of websites is all that's needed.

@GazeboParty - no need to swear

A guide to pay scales is here: www.nasuwt.org.uk/advice/pay-pensions/pay-scales/england-pay-scales.html

(you can link through to London if interested in that)

@GazeboParty - no need to swear

You do know you’re not at school now? No need to correct an adults language.

I've wanted to do zoom class calls but slt has said no! SLT have let the teachers do whatever they feel is appropriate - Zoom, Loom, email or nothing! Any of the above is apparently fine. And I know this because the HT explained this in a Loom presentation. Teachers at our school arev doing fuck all because that what they think is appropriate.

You need to be specific

Okay - a quick google has explained those terms approximately So M1-3 is just "Teacher", M4-6 is "Established Teacher" and UPS is "Expert Teacher" or something along those lines.

Lets say a city, Manchester. Not UPS and fifteen years experience?

@StaffAssociationRepresentative😂🤣😂 I'll fiucking swear if I feel like fucking swearing.🤓

Teachers do not automatically go up through pay scales with longevity of service. That approach was done away with years ago. Also there is no pay portability

In Ireland they do! Starting at 36k all the way to 69k...basic with no extra responsibilities

@Sittingontheveranda

You need to be specific

Okay - a quick google has explained those terms approximately So M1-3 is just "Teacher", M4-6 is "Established Teacher" and UPS is "Expert Teacher" or something along those lines.

Lets say a city, Manchester. Not UPS and fifteen years experience?

Three and a quarter billion pounds per year. All from the public purse. I spend mine on macaroons and nice nail varnish. HTH

It's clear to me that most teachers in state schools are doing very little at the moment.

Just from your own experience or a couple of anecdotes?

In our case, we have regular emails from the head teacher as well to let us know what is happening in regards to online learning.

The dcs teachers are also setting work on a daily basis, and in yr 7 dd's case, she says she is working harder at home than she usually does at school. The work is a mixture of task sheets, videos and presentations. She regularly submits work and gets feedback for them. Their form tutors have also been in touch to check how they're getting on.

I do not get the impression that our dc's teachers are slacking off at all. Secondary state school if that makes a difference.

[quote GazeboParty]@StaffAssociationRepresentative😂🤣😂 I'll fiucking swear if I feel like fucking swearing.🤓[/quote]
Oh dear.
I hope you don't talk to children with that mouth.

Honestly some schools are providing a full on-line service including extracurricular clubs, interhouse competitions, pre- A Level lessons, on line school assemblies, on-line house assemblies, whole school quiz competitions.

Can you all just stop putting all teachers together with generalised statements? Some of us are doing lots and have already more on with delivering the next stage if the curriculum for Year 10 and Year 12.

StaffAssociationRepresentative

Thank you Staff. I was being curious -nosey-. There are teachers in my family but I'd never ask them how much they earned. I read on another thread that teachers don't get paid for holidays which made me wonder what salary they earn. I'd have assumed that the holidays were incorporated into the year and teachers got paid the same amount every month if they were permanent members of staff. I was surprised to read otherwise. The more I think about it, the more I'm sure the holidays may only apply to fixed contracts?