Tomb stoning Dorset, why??

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Just catching up on news from weekend.

Read with horror the story from Dorset doors on Saturday. Three people injured tomb stoning, helicopters landing on beach, people squashed up like sardines.

So ok, it's done, awful but done.

Then I click on next link, yesterday, people still doing it, despite the events the day before. The police have asked them not to, the emergency services have out out a statement asking them not to, the roads have been closed, yet people are still jumping.

The landowner says he has given up fencing it as people just break the fences, climb over.

I just do not get it. Even without corona I couldn't go against all that advice and do something which emergency services had warned against.

Add in corona and the social distancing it is absolutely mind boggling.

Am I missing something? Does it just take a certain type of person to defy everyone and carry on as they please. Even if it had been one casualty but three, plus someone with a broken ankle. Crazy.

If we don’t give our young people, young men in particular, opportunities to experience an adrenaline rush, to take risks and ‘be brave’ they’ll find a way. Often a way where their inconsequential behaviour and belief in their own immortality will lead to tragedy.
Poor parents. Very sad. Nobody deserves to die for their youth.

The point being @ReceptacleForTheRespectable Durdle Door is widely known as an unsafe spot to tombstone/cliff dive.

@CherryPavlova

If we don’t give our young people, young men in particular, opportunities to experience an adrenaline rush, to take risks and ‘be brave’ they’ll find a way. Often a way where their inconsequential behaviour and belief in their own immortality will lead to tragedy. Poor parents. Very sad. Nobody deserves to die for their youth.

I can't argue with that. However you give them opportunities to experience it in ways that are as safe as you can make them - organised events with properly qualified coaches and so on not jumping off dangerous cliffs egged on by a moronic crowd.

It’s exciting and exhilarating, and some young men find that fun. Throw in a bit of peer pressure and bravado, sun and a beer...
Young men do that nonsense all over the world all the time.

Cliff jumping, certainly from that height: there is no need for it. If it goes wrong it is pretty much guaranteed to be really bad. There is nothing about cliff jumping that is needed in life.

Lots of extreme sports that if they go wrong will go really wrong. As I said previously I am no thrill seeker, I am a feet firmly on the ground person, but I can appreciate that feeling of free-ness as they jump off the edge, which I guess is similar to someone doing a parachute jump.

Doing at Durdle Door sounds daft beyond all daftness, but other places, I can see perhaps the appeal.

The point being@ReceptacleForTheRespectable Durdle Door is widely known as anunsafespot to tombstone/cliff dive.

I've acknowledged that though? I'm not saying they were doing something sensible. It's the spiteful comments about Darwinism that I find in bad taste.

I think we’re agreeing bonsaidragon. If not channelled properly the need to experience adrenaline rush activities will still appear but with much higher risks.

I agree Cherry. Risk seeking behaviour is so common, particularly among young men... it's not going to go away. Having opportunities to exercise that urge in a comparatively safe environment would help.

Another local here. Discussed this with colleagues at work on Sunday. We were all horrified at the idea of people jumping from both the top and inside of the Door. The window of chance to have a jump there and NOT injure yourself is so slim, between hitting the water at the wrong angle/impact injury, to hitting the ledge under the water, to hitting the water 'too well' and reaching the bottom too easily. That's before the tides around there come into play. I can't believe people were egging them on. It's just sick.

My DH says that young lads are often 'chasing the story' and that can occlude them from the risks.

I hate the tone of this thread. We were all young and foolish once and many of us took risks because we thought we were immortal (that we look back on now and marvel at our foolish younger selves).

I remember reading once that it's not that teenagers underestimate risk, it's that they overestimate reward - they know something is stupid but they overestimate how great it will have been to do it, how admiring everyone will be, etc. I was generally considered a pretty compliant and sensible teenager but I did things that make me shudder looking back (swimming while drunk comes to mind - and all the stupid things I can think of that I did involved alcohol to some degree) and that I can no longer fathom finding appealing.

I wouldn't have done that though

FWIW the idea horrifies me now, as a woman in her 30's and a very different perspective on the world. But I agree with PP, as a younger person I did all sorts which put me at risk of harm. Blind luck that means I am stood here today and not a sad tale in the family history.

I got into a strangers car (three lads) when a young adult because I was pissed and my friend was paralytic and couldn't stand and I needed to get her home. That was pretty stupid and risky. Luckily nothing awful happened but it could so easily have gone wrong. Had we died in a car accident or been raped / murdered I guess that would have been 'Darwin in action'

fairislecable said:

"They should rename it Lemming Leap with an added sign ( enjoy - this may be the last time you can use your legs !)"

I wish they would. It's a shame they can't show pictures/names of all the people who have been paralysed/badly injured, but data protection laws prevent that. Although maybe some of those people would be willing to give permission for their personal data to be shared in this way, as a warning so that others could learn from their mistakes?

I saw a report that two have life changing injuries, but not that one had died.

Way too high a price to pay for a stupid lapse of judgement by them.

Young men do stupid things to look cool, even if it means that they might die. That's been true forever, and won't change I don't think

This was a theme touched upon in an episode of Casualty. The guy who played Vikram in Shameless played a bloke trying to impress a woman on a date. I can only vaguely remember it but he jumps on to the edge of a boat type thing and ends up with his legs completely crushed by something moving behind it.

I think this was the episode. Stand By Me 2009

www.imdb.com/title/tt1379284/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast

Are there any updates on how they are?

They interviewed the guy on TV this morning who actually rescued 2 if the lads who were injured. One was knocked unconscious and was at the bottom of the sea, and this guy kept diving down and diving down until he got him out. He would have died, no doubt about it. This guy risked his own life several times for a couple of idiots who thought the rules didn't apply to them.
And then it happens again the next day.
Disrespectful, thoughtless idiots.

I'm curious as to what all those people on the beach who had been cheering them on to jump were doing when it became clear there was a life and death rescue playing out. Still cheering? Or effecting concern?

The video I saw had them clapping when they jumped and then going "oooooooooooo" as two hit the water. No one from where it was filmed was seen to be moving to help. But obviously the beach was packed and some did help. This was just one persons video of what happened (I believe it's now been deleted). The previous footage before them jumping was what sounded like everyone chanting "jump" on loop.

To clarify it the clip wasn't a long one either so they may have helped after.

Apart from the morons who must have cost the police, air ambulance £millions this weekend, when they have enough of things to do.

Have you seen the picture of the TONS of rubbish the scum have left on the beach, including excrement, that volunteers have had to pick up?

Have you seen the picture of the TONS of rubbish the scum have left on the beach, including excrement, that volunteers have had to pick up?

I wonder if this is worse than usual or if it's usually cleared by the Lulworth Estate?

I think the nearest facilities have always been at the campsite at the top of the cliff which is a long, steep climb from the beach.

A spell of National Service would do these idiots the world of good.