To offer to look after this fucking dog?

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My neighbour thought it would be a great idea to buy a very needy, clingy puppy while she fucks off out to work all day. Today she went back from furlough and the fucking thing is already going absolutely berserk. I've had her about it twice before and to be fair to her she is trying various things to calm it down. It's less than 6 months old. But the bottom line is it's a puppy and they are NOT designed for this. I can't see an end to it and she won't rehome it, which she should if she loves it. I'm working from home. I need to concentrate. Puppy is fine when with people. So muggins here is considering offering to have her responsibility here in my house, providing for free what would normally be a very expensive service during the day so it sits down and shuts the fuck up. Only until I go back to the office later this year. So unfair. I don't want to report her it would just be so awkward!

The reasons puppies have a terrible time being left alone

Is the same reason most beg for food

Dogs don’t know if you’re coming back. We do. We know we will. But unless you’ve trained your dog to know that he knows your coming back. He truly thinks that you’ve left him forever. And that’s keep happening. Till your train it

Same for food for most dogs. Wild dogs have this in bred fear of never having food again. Hence why they beg for food. Because they believe it might be the only food they’ll get in days.

That poor puppy. Why get one if you're going to be out that long.

My neighbours have got there Alexa 'reading a book' during the day when out and making a heartbeat sound at night for their puppy - maybe something like this ?

@HoppingPavlova

More people using dogs for their breed

More people weren’t able to take their dogs to work. My father reascued a dog off the side of a motorway. He was a police officer. When mo one came to get him. My father kept him. He took him to work most days! He was a border collie. Beautiful dog. Fully trained at 10 months. We’ve never understood why

More people are having dogs in general. More kids are getting dogs for Xmas. And then psh

More breeds than there was 50 years ago

More handbag dog. Which are getting huge health problems because they don’t get walked. At all!!

Many reasons. But the first two really. Less dogs. People could take to work. .

@HoppingPavlova I think it's different now as so many dogs have separation anxiety, even when given the run of the house and garden.

But also dogs letting dogs roam outside unassisted is just irresponsible. Dogs can get injured or killed by other dogs or cars. They can also run and not come back.

There are a lot of things people used to do that when you think about it with a little common sense were just plain stupid. I can think of many things I did.

Not read any posts. Do not take on the dog. Tell neighbour to pay for a dog walker to come and take dog out . They can come twice a day or if they have some land take dog from about 10am to 4 pm. I am in flats and neighbour here used to have dog walker collect dog morning and return it in afternoon. The walker had key to flat as owner was at work. Walker had an old taxi which was full.of dogs who were very good and seemed to love it!

I think she does come home to armageddon hence why she mentioned yesterday she is taking him to a trainer / behavioural therapist / dog whisperer whatever. Chewing things etc. I just thought well good luck with that love, because to be honest I'm sure any decent professional will ask the dogs routine then give her a good bollocking and just tell her to rehome him.

(Oh my. If she rehomed him I think I might actually come in my pants!)

Back then it was rare for people to have them in the house also where I was growing up, family neighbourhood with really large yards. Most yards were not even fenced, yet the majority of dogs seemed to hang around home.
Would you really think it was acceptable to leave a small puppy to it's own devices all day? To just leave it in an unfenced garden and let it wander wherever it liked?

Imagine the uproar if dogs were just allowed to free-roam the streets with no collars, no owners, no consequences? Nobody to stop them running into the road or from shitting in your garden?

Just because something was accepted 50 years ago doesn't mean it should continue to be accepted now.

That's fucking awful for the puppy. No way should it be left that long, someone should be home usually.

She absolutely needs to use a sitter or daycare, or more ideally re-home to someone with a more suitable lifestyle.

Pointers are hard work and take several years to calm down. They are not suited to the life she has lined up for it. I would be very surprised if it sat quietly and allowed you to work. They are working dogs and need to be outside and properly walked.

You are being very generous but she needs to rehome it.

She may love the dog and be trying but it's a working dog. It needs to be occupied and exercised. She's bought a dog she can't provide for. They're pack animals, they get lonely and stressed. It's had her full attention for 6 months then suddenly nothing. The dog isn't needy and clingy, it's stressed, scared and lonely . Her heart maybe in the right place but this is unfair on the dog. She either gets a companion for the dog, a dog sitter or she rehomes the dog. Gun dogs aren't bred to be house bound 12 hrs a day.

Your neighbour is at best stupid and at worst cruel - tell her its not tenable that she leaves it alone in despair (because that's what its suffering) 11 hours a day; when she talks about dog whisperers tell her that they can't enable her to be so cruel and neither can you. Its not a training matter, its a matter of cruelty. Rinse and repeat.

Have you checked if your local council have a dog warden? In our area you could report this and they would visit to do a welfare check.

When she consults her trainer he or she will tell her what she can't train her puppy out of loneliness. That's too long a day even to just get as walker in once.
People seem to think a lot of dogs will be given up after lockdown but also lots of workplaces have learned wfh is desirable. I was going to need daycare for my pup but it seems both me and my husband will be home much more as a result of all this and we may not need it at all. You don't always have to imagine the worst.

I work from home and our dog was a nightmare when she was a pup, chewed through my work phone cord, went berserk when I was on the phone to clients etc. You just can’t do it. Neither is it at all fair on the puppy as it will get used to you, only to loose you when you go back to work.

I think you need to have a really polite but firm conversation, she needs a dog walker at least a couple of times a day or doggy day care. I would point out how difficult it is to concentrate over the howling and how much distress it’s causing you to hear it in distress. Give her a few weeks to sort it out and if it isn’t, call the RSPCA.

Jesus Christ, some people are beyond stupid :(

She isnt a good owner, she is cruel and I would recod the dog going beserk and contact the RSPCA. The pup needs to go to someone who will actually look after it. Poor thing must be in a state of distress

I really wouldn't offer - and I absolutely love dogs! I think you will make a rod for your own back and she'll come to expect it. Plus it would take up quite a lot of your time. I would complain to her and tell her how bad the noise is and keep a log of hours it's howling/barking.

Never had a dog but I know someone who got a puppy (now a dog and a gorgeous one at that) and I gather it's much more difficult than I thought! If you think you could manage it while wfh, I think you should.

Why do so many stupid people buy dogs?
She needs to get day care for it or she's going to get reported for being a negligent twat.

I'd suggest recording the dog for at least 30 minutes, sending her the recording, and pointing out that the dog is being left in that level of distress for several hours a day, every day; and saying that you really need her to produce a plan for remedying it now because it simply isn't kind to the dog.

I agree with all the other posters that she is a bad dog owner.

But I do also feel sorry for you as I think you are going to have to tell her and she will take it very badly and that will get transferred onto you.

Im not really sure what you could report her for? Are you saying only people that dont work should buy puppies

You would be reporting for noise to the council and negelct to the RSPCA. Its quite simple.

Keep asserting yourself to her op. She needs telling how bad it is so she can't pretend that all is well. You need to be a thorn in her side.

I'd say to her that it sounds like the puppy is really distressed and that 11 hours is too long for any dog and keep at it. Can you take recordings?

No trainer is going to be able to resolve that- I wonder if she would even tell them the truth to be honest.

Poor puppy.

Oh my. If she rehomed him I think I might actually come in my pants!)

Jesus, no need for that 🤮

Report her to the rspca that dog should not be left all that time, it’s cruel