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Neighbours send rottweiler out when my asd child plays!

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cookiesandmilk · 30/05/2020 18:32

I really have to encourage my child to go outside. But just recently he has been going out more. Just it concerns me that nearly everytime I hear the neighbours open their back door they send the dog out which constantly barks at my child. They make no attempt to stop it and my child gets scared. I don't know why they do it as my son isn't particularly loud outside, possibly quieter than the average child. He just does do a lot of stimming with his arms. When I go outside on my own they don't send the dog out. What could I do to stop my son being scared. I also daren't approach the neighbours as they aren't the approachable type!

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GreytExpectations · 30/05/2020 21:09

Why can't you knock on their door and then step back the reccomended 2 metres? Sorry OP but you seem to be making a lot of excuses to avoid talking to them. Unfortunately if you want the situation to resolve you need to either talk to them or fork out the money to put a proper, sturdy fence in.

Bunny2006 · 30/05/2020 21:09

@MarylandMayhem

So if there was a dog you felt was one day going to hurt or even kill your own child you'd not do anything? I mean if you'd tried everything possible but nothing had worked, a true last resort
The OP hasn't said she feels the dog is going to hurt or kill her child?? So this is irrelevant to her thread.

Although if there was genuine reason/concern the dog would do this, ie had bitten/showed it would attack it would likely be humanely 'destroyed'. It is not left down to, as another post quite rightly put it - a tosser with a bar of Bourneville. Which would not instantly kill a dog, and most can recover with veterinary care.

Sorry OP this is off your topic, I'm done now can't handle the stupidity.

MarylandMayhem · 30/05/2020 21:10

Anyway, OP says she has no intention of doing anything to the dogSmile

I hope you manage to get the situation sorted OP, your child should be scared int heir own garden.

Londonsuffolkmummy · 30/05/2020 21:10

I left my old property 2 months ago due to cunts like this persecuted on a daily basis and my son is autistic

Londonsuffolkmummy · 30/05/2020 21:11

They are evil

OtterBe4 · 30/05/2020 21:11

What is the point posting this if you are unwilling to approach them?
Just because they’re not all pally with the neighbours doesn’t mean they’re rude or anti social!
Knock the door and politely explain its be nice for a bit of give and take on both sides.
Tbf Id be putting up a fence, most dogs can get through a hedge and if your son is stimming it could easily scare a dog, a fence for everyone’s safety should be a priority.

GreytExpectations · 30/05/2020 21:11

@MarylandMayhem

If there is an actual dangerous dog than I would report it to authorities and take measures to ensure my child is kept safely away from the dog while the owner is being investigated

Well that wouldn't be a last resort position then, would it?Hmm

Do you not understand the meaning of the phrase?

Of course I do. If the authorities do not believe the dog to be aggressive then its unlikely to be dangerous so once again, no I would not slowly torture the dog the death. I would put measures in place to ensure my child can be kept away from the dog. As a last resort, assuming the owners won't train the dog. Do you not understand how cruel you sound?
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MarylandMayhem · 30/05/2020 21:11

Shouldn't *!

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tabulahrasa · 30/05/2020 21:16

“So if there was a dog you felt was one day going to hurt or even kill your own child you'd not do anything? I mean if you'd tried everything possible but nothing had worked, a true last resort”

It’s just barking... and so far, she’s tried nothing...

I’d speak to the neighbours, then contact authorities and then build a fence

I’d not try and poison it with chocolate

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 30/05/2020 21:17

If you have any reason to believe it is a Guard Dog , then there are laws regarding the behaviour pf the dog and its control.
Also the clear signalling to make the public aware.

The Guard Dogs Act 1975 prohibits the use of a guard dog on any premises unless there is a ‘handler’ capable of controlling the dog present on the premises and the dog is under the control of the handler at all times. The only exception is where the dog is secured so that it cannot go freely about the premises; or where another handler has control over the dog

The Act prohibits a person from using or permitting the use of a guard dog at any premises unless a notice containing a warning that a guard dog is present is clearly exhibited at each entrance.

Many years ago my DD was terrified of dogs , and funnily enough, it never occured to me to "teach my child to not fear dogs" , I thought it SO much better to let her decide for herself if a dog coming round the corner was more of a danger than running onto a main road .
Face Pams.
It curtailled many places we could go.

Roll on a few years (she isn't afraid now) two barky dogs next door .
Sometimes I do shout at the dogs to STFU (in my defence , the owners shout Shut up Bobby so I figure its the language they understand .

But I have knocked on the door at stupid o'clock when the barking has gone on 2 hours.

Or when they've come into my garden.

You need to put the needs of your DS above this dog.
You cannot prove they let it out to scare your DS but you can tell them the noise is untolerable.
You can download some details about noise pollution.
But if he is a Guard Dog , think about it in the same way as an alarm. They are welcome to have an alarm. They are not welcome to let it ring for hours on end .

And feeding a strange dog? No.
Chocolate? You'd get the Vets Bill if it was my dog.

MarylandMayhem · 30/05/2020 21:17

If the authorities do not believe the dog to be aggressive then its unlikely to be dangerous

Where is this wonderful place you live where authorities, dog wardens etc actually have the time (and inclination) to properly assess a dogs behaviour?

Eckhart · 30/05/2020 21:18

So if there was a dog you felt was one day going to hurt or even kill your own child you'd not do anything? I mean if you'd tried everything possible but nothing had worked, a true last resort

Why are you being so ridiculous? This question is nothing to do with the thread, nor reality. You're best ignored, I think, since you clearly have nothing of value to contribute.

OtterBe4 · 30/05/2020 21:21

Very thread seems to be full of OTT drama queens, why would she report the dog? it’s done nothing and neither has she!
If OP is that concerned she needs to grow a spine and speak to her ndn.
MN and it’s entitlement, how dare a dog be in its own garden 🙄

GreytExpectations · 30/05/2020 21:24

Where is this wonderful place you live where authorities, dog wardens etc actually have the time (and inclination) to properly assess a dogs behaviour?

They follow the legal dangerous dogs act. If a dog attacks then it get reported and action is taken if relevant. Where do you like that this isn't a standard process?
What is your problem that you would want a dog slowly poisoned as a last resort for loud barking? You asked me a question and I answered. You clearly did not like it so you are now derailing the thread.

FancyPants20 · 30/05/2020 21:28

Jesus, a lot of trolls on this thread.

Op, if your neighbours live in the Uk, they must have enough English to at least understand a pigeon/semi-mime conversation. You owe it to your son to defend his from this threat, so put your big gurl pants on, go round and chap their door and tell them to knock it off with the dog tricks or you'll report them to the council. Stand up for your son, FGS, and stop being wet.

Nottherealslimshady · 30/05/2020 21:29

Dont feed the dog. Never feed someone elses dog. I'd suspect you were trying to harm mine.

Dont call the dog warden, that's for dangerous and out of control dogs. If a rottweiler was even complained about they'd put it down, people have such a horrible misconception about the breed.

I have a rottie, they're a lovely breed and so easily trained. They are protective of their family.
It is likely that the dog is feeling threatened by your son. He's behaving differently that the dog would expect from a human.
My dog can sense when someone is drunk or drugged, she doesn't like loiterers.

I would recommend talking to the dog. Do you know its name? When our neighbours dog is left alone and barking I shout "it's ok dogs name" and he settles. Just say hi and it's ok, be a good boy kind of thing.

It might just want to play, if your son flaps his hands or uses high tones of voice it could make the dog excited.
My girl is lovely and intelligent and goofy, but even the trainer at her scent class said she looks terrifying when she's eager to play but it's not aggression at all.

NeutrinoWrangler · 30/05/2020 21:31

From a practical point of view, if the neighbours don't respond as you'd like (by either keeping the dog in when your son is out which could be tricky if they aren't always aware of when he's in/out or training the dog not to bark-- which is easier said than done with some dogs), it's going to be up to you to minimise the effect the barking has on your son.

I'd suggest a fence, but if that's not affordable, maybe put up some type of visual barrier in the worst spots. From the photos, certain spots of the hedge seem thinner than others. Maybe you could put something up just in those worst places-- pots of fast-growing plants... panels of trellis with fast-growing vines covering them... a fabric screen... even just an old sheet or curtain on a clothesline.

That will only block the sight of the dog, of course. Would it help to distract your son from the dog's barking if you played some music while he's outside, or would that be more likely to disrupt than soothe? If it wouldn't bother him, maybe it would mask some of your son's sounds/movements and keep the dog from reacting so much.

Notnownotneverever · 30/05/2020 21:32

Could you put up your own fence on your side? To make your son feel more secure.

cookiesandmilk · 30/05/2020 21:50

It would cost a lot to fence the garden so that's a last resort. It is also the boundary to my right so it is normally their job to sort. We both own our own houses. The guard dog issue is concerning as they often leave the dog outside whilst they go out I never thought about this aspect before.

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frostedviolets · 30/05/2020 21:51

Don't call the dog warden, that's for dangerous and out of control dogs. If a rottweiler was even complained about they'd put it down, people have such a horrible misconception about the breed
Hah!
I reported a Rottweiler who used to throw itself against a fence and try to scramble up and over whenever people walked past.
It was a tall fence and it would get high enough for you to see his snarling, frothing face bob up and down.
The police received loads of complaints, it was kept as a guard dog (signs on the front of the property) and they did fuck all!
Said it was a lovely dog with its owners (no fucking shit.. Hmm) and they would only act if it actually escaped and bit someone.
Eventually the owners put an even higher fence up and that it stopped him.

It is likely that the dog is feeling threatened by your son. He's behaving differently that the dog would expect from a human
I agree, though no one knows for sure

I would recommend talking to the dog. Do you know its name? When our neighbours dog is left alone and barking I shout "it's ok dogs name" and he settles. Just say hi and it's ok, be a good boy kind of thing
I overheard the owners talking to the vicious Rottweiler mentioned above once, the next time I had to pass the house I did say very cheerily ‘hello rottie’s name and make cheery small talk and he stopped and cocked his head for all of a second before presumably confirming in his head that he absolutely did not know me and went even more mental than before!

frostedviolets · 30/05/2020 21:53

It would cost a lot to fence the garden so that's a last resort. It is also the boundary to my right so it is normally their job to sort
You really don’t have any other option.
If they were responsible owners it wouldn’t be out barking at your child in the first place.
You need to find the money and install the fence

Samtsirch · 30/05/2020 21:53

@Londonsuffolkmummy
I am sorry for what you have been through, but you might be projecting your own situation onto this one, you don’t know that the neighbours are «evil» or «cunts» or « persecuting « the OP.
Any way I hope you and your child are happier in your new home.😊

EwwSprouts · 30/05/2020 21:54

Bite the bullet and get a fence. Definitely do not feed the dog, it will poke its head through more often & further in hope of treats.