That everybody seems to be acting like it's over?

[Twinklelittlestar1]

I don't get it. We had more deaths yesterday than the day we went into lockdown. Everyone is acting like Covid has gone away and so many people seem to naively think the government easing things is because the situation is magically going away now rather than driven by their economic priorities. We already have the second highest death rate it the WORLD yet it seems lots of people are desensitised to hearing about people dying now. I get that everyone wants to 'think positively' and feel like things are getting better but I feel like people are naively celebrating the governments easing of lockdowns with such faith rather than caution.

@YetAnotherSpartacus

That's my point. You make your choice and I will make mine. Based not on boredom, but on the needs of me and my family'

Your choice will affect others - mine won't. Is it really too much to ask you to do the basics?

Yanoo - if not, I know which posters' names I want to see in the 'my lungs are on-fite threads' if anyone's have to be there.

Haha. You’re trying to make out you’re altruistic and doing things for the good of others, then make a statement like that.

And we are doing ‘the basics’. I can’t remember the last time I came within 2m of someone not in my household! Didn’t stop us enjoying a lovely, perfectly legal morning out at a country park today.

How do these
"We're going to stay home forever" people pay the bills? I'm intrigued
And I have never wished ill on those who wish to stay at home forever
Never wished poor mental health or the complications of treatable diseases that they may be at risk of if they refuse to leave their homes
Yet they think it's ok to wish a painful death by covid on those of us getting on with our lives
And some of us have had no choice but to be out of the house due to work for months

Yes it is now actually. But I'm sticking to the rules because I'm law abiding and because I have little choice - because my kids school isn't open, shops aren't open, I can't travel, I can't go to work. But as soon as I can, i will. And my point is, this needs to stop now, we need to be out of lockdown. Lockdown was never going to ensure that people wouldn't get the virus. it was just going to slow it down, to protect the NHS. My point is the costs are too high now. Not just to me, but to lots of people.

And actually, I haven't seen another adult for weeks. and if I choose for my own mental wellbeing to see a friend, in their house, and they make the same decision, yes I will do it.

Haha. You’re trying to make out you’re altruistic and doing things for the good of others, then make a statement like that

Not at all. If someone has to go I hope that it isn't those who have obeyed the rules, but rather those who have flouted them. Only seems fair really.

The people on here are obeying the rules, in the main. The rules are that we can go for unlimited exercise, have picnics, sunbathe, travel as far as you want for exercise... you might not like it, but that’s the case.

I never knew viruses had a conflab about whether someone had kept to the rules before infecting them
Clever little things
Well cleverer than some mumsnet posters it would seem

It is over. It’s not stay at home anymore, it’s stay alert. It’s not red but green (the official graphics which are chosen for their psychological effect). And it’s not don’t see anyone, it’s waffle bubble waffle.

The gov won’t say it because they don’t want to be held responsible but the message is clear: if you want to self-isolate, can work from home or afford not to work knock yourself out, overwise get back to working and spending.

They also won’t give the official green light for seeing family as it’s the one thing that doesn’t make anyone any money, incur tax or create gdp.

@mrsjg the NE has passed its peak (see graph posted above). Also, it’s pointless comparing rates in the NE now with rates in London weeks ago as testing rates are different. Focused isolation through track and trace is our best way forwards now.

This is the second thread I've read like this in the last quarter of an hour. With no further comment from the op.

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Interesting, for those saying some areas haven’t reached their peak yet.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52820218

These threads have appeared daily since the first weekend of lockdown, insisting that people are carrying on as normal and therefore the virus will spread.

In fact, most shops are shut, public transport use has plummeted, nobody is travelling, no cafes, restaurants or bars are open, millions of people are working from home, schools have closed and the virus peaked on the 8th April.

Despite how desperate many posters are for new peaks following sunny days/ mothers day/Cheltenham /VE day, none of these have happened.

Where I live we haven't reached our peak yet.

You said the north east. They are decreasing.

Do you actually understand what a peak is, as you stating that it hasn't been reached clearly shows you don't understand.

The numbers aren't even at epidemic level now.

In my opinion this govt never really took it seriously.

I’m an ex hcp myself and I worked mainly in elderly care (called geriatrics then) I am, and have been throughout, thoroughly horrified at how care home residents and staff have been basically abandoned! Also the horrific ignorance of the seriously ill to “clear the decks” within the nhs in order to treat potential covid patients. If the nhs hadn’t been run into the ground for so long this wouldn’t have been necessary.

And that’s before you even get started on our joke of a “lockdown” which never really was!

Borders not closed, no testing for many weeks and when they did finally bring it in its chaotic, poor supply of Ppe, schools never really closed, places where people are inclined to gather in groups (parks, beaches, beauty spots) never really closed, no quarantining, poor & vague guidance on pretty much everything, travel pretty much unrestricted, lack of enforcement, the utter shambles of the supposed financial support for those temporarily without employment with several groups not included in the arrangements, important govt agencies not covering information supply adequately, supermarkets online delivery in utter chaos plus the supermarkets & others profiteering...

It’s been a complete fucking disaster!

People are making their own risk assessments because they have lost all faith in the government, can't say I blame them. neither do I!

I think a lot of people are thinking “fuck it! May as well go back to normal and desperately hope for the best we won’t catch it, and if we do that we can get & respond to treatment, because the govt fucked this up so bad we’re probably bound to get it just by living in the Uk now anyway.”

We’re a modern leper colony at this point!

I live in one of the worst affected areas in the country, it’s also one of the most deprived which is how it seems to have panned out across the country and worldwide - areas of deprivation and poverty hardest hit. People here mostly observed the few rules there were but we have a lot of care home residents and a lot of people with underlying health issues that make them more vulnerable.

I’m in Scotland too where it was a little stricter.

@myohmywhatawonderfulday it is in NO WAY comparable to flu and chicken pox! Have you even seen anyone suffering from covid? It is far more serious and far more stringent!

Those of you commenting on the stats re confirmed cases of covid and covid deaths seem to be forgetting we’re still barely testing! I suspect there are a lot of cases and even deaths due to covid not being recorded as such.

Even before this people don't generally cough in other people's faces. Has this EVER happened to you in a supermarket in your whole life? actually yes many times, also on public transport, in the street, in drs surgery... people are gross!

The whole thing has been massively mismanaged throughout

There is no internationally agreed protocol for counting death due to Covid-19. also an excellent point! I certainly don’t believe china’s supposedly minimal effects.

They didn't have the science in 1920s that we do today that makes our govts response worse not better! We know better so we should have done better, we don’t seem to have as far as I can see