To not understand the outrage at Dominic Cummings?

[Wow123]

Please don’t flame me for this. I’m not posting this to be controversial. I am someone who always tries to see the good in people which has been to my detriment at time’s in the past so I’m very well aware that maybe I’m missing something here and being too kind when he possibly doesn’t deserve it.

My understanding is that Dominic Cummings is saying that he only returned to Durham on one occasion which was because he had fears about potentially being unable to look after his child if him and his wife both ended up too unwell with Covid. I can understand the logic in that.

I appreciate the government advice at that stage was to stay home but if he genuinely didn’t have anyone to help with his son, then I can understand his fears and that he was trying to put his child first as any parent would.

My understanding is that a matter of days after, the government did clarify that travelling in the event of needing support with children if you had caught covid was an exceptional circumstance and that travel in that instance was acceptable.

I personally live hundreds of miles from family and don’t have anyone I could ask for help in the local area was I to become unwell with Covid so this does resonate with me.

I understand that there were sightings of Dominic Cummings on other dates in Durham which indicate that he travelled back up there. If this is true, I definitely agree that he needs to be sacked, but at this stage, there is no proof of this.

Am I missing something here?

No, not at the moment, unless you're on their priority list, which is swamped

GEt REAL . He has aides. He has a network of people working for him. Like chief advisor to our Gov is going to be allowed to starve.

What an absolute crock.

If he doesn’t have Ocado I’m sure he can still get food delivered by someone.

The thing that is boiling my piss the most is just the rewriting of history the outrageous suggestions that have been pushed out in the last 48 hours that it was advice we could use our common sense just isn’t true there was a clear instruction that if a member of the household has symptoms the whole household had to isolate together at their home. The man has family local to him!!
How have other people coped when they have come down with it and they have kept the children home as per the rules are they not good parents are they not acting with integrity for keeping the children in the house?

They have absolutely destroyed their own credibility and trustworthiness, they have undermined all messages around how we can best protect people and the NHS it’s been a massive FUck you to the entire country who have made sacrifices.

it is a ludicrous insult to our intelligence and I hope it brings Boris down

If they isolated when they got to Durham what’s the issue? There’s no practical difference between isolating there and isolating in London bar that they had more support in the event they took a turn for the worse. It’s not like the government ever made any attempt to stop the geographical spread of covid.

Have you not read this thread, any of the others or seen the news coverage?

they isolated when they got to Durham what’s the issue? There’s no practical difference between isolating there and isolating in London bar that they had more support in the event they took a turn for the worse. It’s not like the government ever made any attempt to stop the geographical spread of covid.

Seriously?

Have you been under a ROCK?

Is It still early March?

T R A V E L B A N

NailsNeedDoing - absolutely agree with your post about the hypocracy of journalist, they're looking to stir things up and generate shock horror headlines.
Some people are making all kinds of assumptions based on snippets of "information" fed to them by the press and getting more and more het up and angry.
Which is exactly what the journalists want.

If they isolated when they got to Durham what’s the issue?
But they didn’t.

I agree OP - the witness is now saying he "thinks" he saw someone who "looked like" DC.
His child is now (if you look online) having to listen to an angry torch-burning mob outside his house shouting and screaming obscenities into his home (a home is a sanctuary), not DC's workplace, but his home! It's disturbing to watch and how everyone has forgotten the effects of this mob mentality on Princess Diana and Caroline Flack, so quickly is the most hateful and hypocritical thing I've seen of late.
The bile-filled spew that is coming from those who already HATED DC is transparent and it has become a witch hunt, which has taken on a new level - any other MP being followed and harrassed to such a degree outside their HOME would have the police there in a flash.
Pps on other threads saying that DC's son being autistic makes no difference is callous - what's happened to us?

Of course he could get food delivered! His aide lives two streets away. I would imagine Downing Street could have arranged for an aide to deliver food if needed.

The fact that the social media may have been swamped with photos of the food being delivered is, surely, a good thing? It's a case of 'look, Dominic Cummings is doing exactly the right thing. Covid 19 in the home so he's having his food delivered to the doorstep, good man!'

@CovidicusRex but hats the point. He could have isolated in a London with plenty of people to help IF he needed it which it turns out he didn’t anyway. The government message which he wa Sparta of writing was stay at home, do not leave your home, you may not travel to s second homes for isolation or any other purposes. He wrote he rules, most of us followed them to a high degree of misery and sacrifice and yet he did not follow the rules he expected us to

I'm with you @Wow123.
Sick of the media like rabid dogs with a bone.

One of the things I find very frustrating about this is the lack of repercussions for Prince Charles taking himself off to Scotland when symptomatic. Where's the indignation? He didn't even have a child who might have needed looking after?

Cummings is in the wrong, pure and simple. What is shocking is the hastily added 'in exceptional circumstances' and 'safeguarding' caveats by the Government. Three possible reasons for getting away with it; he has something on Boris and/or other cabinet ministers; he really doesn't think the rules apply to him; or the govt knew that this behaviour would cause people to say 'Sod it, if he can, I can', thereby breaking lockdown and absolving govt of any ensuing second spike...

Like the snippets of 'information' fed to us by Cummings wife?

Driving right across the country to dump your children off with someone else ‘just incase’ you feel too ill to look after them is not a normal thing to do, lockdown or not. I have no understanding whatsoever for their actions. Evidence suggests that most people suffer manageable symptoms for a few days at most, far from needing hospitalisation - the idea that people would be too ill to look after their children was never an issue or topic of discussion before this because most parents clearly expected to just manage, like you do when you have a sickness bug, a heavy cold virus or a very bad hangover... you behave like a parent and you deal with it and call on family and friends if and when you should really need it - not as a precautionary measure. Cummings and his wife are pathetic parents and clearly live on a different fucking planet to most people if they thought this was a normal and understandable thing to do.

I agree CovidicusRex. I get the impression people are just frustrated with everything about the pandemic and want a scapegoat to put in the stocks. We are all able to make risk assessments when we need to and this man is literally employed as a risk assessor. My young adult niece was furious a few weeks ago about her grandfather safely visiting a client 70 miles way, and I had to remind her that he was capable of judging the risks and making a safe decision.

The viciousness seems to be a moment of collective insanity.

Emandator I’ll add one more. Johnson knows he cannot do his job without him. All his thinking is from Cummings.

@CovidicusRex - don't bother. The other celebs and MPs who flouted the rules to have affairs, see their elderly parents on bdays etc are all forgiven and forgotten - but to hell with the man who took his vulnerable child to a familiar setting on a tank of fuel is different, because he's the instigator of Brexit.

What is fascinating watching this is how people don't realise that the sheepdog is not employed to go through the gate with the sheep, but to get them through it. Brilliant Sheep are very difficult to get through the gate actually. The instinctive fear of the wolf (virus) will get them to comply.

Thank you derxa

Baaaaa

"What is fascinating watching this is how people don't realise that the sheepdog is not employed to go through the gate with the sheep, but to get them through it."

Cummings isn't the sheepdog; he's the wolf.

So he lives and works in London as does his wife and the had nobody within 260miles to help bring them some food? That is all they got from his family in durham, so really didn’t need to make the trip did they? I can’t believe they think are actually stupid enough to believe this story they are feeding us

The other celebs and MPs who flouted the rules to have affairs, see their elderly parents on bdays etc are all forgiven and forgotten - but to hell with the man who took his vulnerable child to a familiar setting on a tank of fuel is different, because he's the instigator of Brexit.

No, because he's the man who made The Rules we were all told to follow, come hell or high water.

The other slebs didn’t have Johnson standing on the podium for them.

If the man had shown contrition and admitted it wasn’t within the rules it would be different.