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To get waves of grief over not being able to have children?

54 replies

acceptancemuchneeded · 24/05/2020 23:05

I'm having a shit day with this today. Not to be dramatic.

My life is great in many ways, I am happy in many ways.

But every few weeks I just have some deep sadness about it.

OP posts:
Iggypoppie · 25/05/2020 00:09

You might find some support through Jody Day and Gateway Women.x

AntiHop · 25/05/2020 00:12

It's totally understandable that you feel that way. Flowers

MeAndHimAndHer · 25/05/2020 00:14

YANBU
I’m so sorry you’re going through this. I’ve been there and it is horrendously difficult.
I remember sitting downstairs by myself late at night cradling empty arms and crying.
After going through ivf 4 times I now have a wonderful adopted daughter.
That may not be for you and that’s ok. But I am happy.
But I clearly remember the anguish and still now often feel sad that I never got to experience pregnancy but never that I don’t have my own child because I do.
Whatever way you choose to address your need I hope you find happiness.

beethecrackon24995 · 25/05/2020 00:23

DFAMA Grin I agree and was thinking the same. Those type of posts are so fucking predictable and annoying and also so not needed. Made me want to up chuck when I read it.

OP so sorry Flowers

Sparklesocks · 25/05/2020 00:32

So sorry, thinking of you 💗

shamelesschocaholic · 25/05/2020 00:53

@TheTrollFairy. Very similar to donating sperm although harder I’d imAgine lol

Yes they can look you up but I don’t mind that. You can find out the child’s Sex and dob. I’ve told mine they have a bio Brother. You can also leave them a letter.

Basically you get a free round ivf if you offer to give half your eggs.

Wingedharpy · 25/05/2020 01:18

It's a sort of bereavement OP.

You grieve for the life you thought you'd have.

You grieve for the children you so badly want(ed).

And, like bereavement, it takes time, a long time, to reach the acceptance that it just isn't meant to be.

It does get easier over time, but I'd be lying if I said it will go away and never bother you again once you've reached that acceptance.

Someone said to me, "don't waste the life that you have, chasing the life that you want", and, though it was of no help whatsoever at the time, I did reflect on those words often, and came to understand them better.

🍸I'm sending you a cocktail because I can't find the flowers.
Hope tomorrow is a better day for you.

OhioOhioOhio · 25/05/2020 01:21

I'm so sorry for the devastating disappointment of your experience. I think you are allowed to feel such sadness when you want rather than expect yourself to cope.

UnaCorda · 25/05/2020 09:00

Could adoption or using a surrogate be an option?

Hmm
Mydoglicksplates · 25/05/2020 09:07

I agree it's grief, it comes in waves, I do think hormones intensify the feelings that are always bubbling under the surface. I don't think it will ever go away, maybe over time it will be come less frequent or maybe less intense but it's now part of you for life. Flowers

silentpool · 25/05/2020 09:08

I think you need to expect the grief and to allow it to happen. You've missed out on something you really wanted in life and it is perfectly natural. And to all the people who are suggesting adoption and egg donation etc, I realise it is well-meaning but just STOP. It is not the same thing and you are minimising what is terrible grief.

NotTheOnlyPomInTheVillage · 25/05/2020 09:12

I don't see what's wrong with someone recommending a surrogate. OP, I don't wish to pry, but could you remortgage to pay for a surrogate in the US? It's just a suggestion and something I know a bit about. Hope it doesn't offend.

SerenDippitty · 25/05/2020 09:27

It’s normal for you to feel this way OP. I couldn’t have children, it was 20 years ago I was ttc and it still comes back to bite me on the bum sometimes.

And yes it is a kind of bereavement and suggestions of adoption, surrogacy etc are not helpful. You would not say to someone who has lost their husband “have you thought about remarrying, there a lots of nice men out there who are looking for a wife” would you?

bee222 · 25/05/2020 09:37

Could adoption or using a surrogate be an option

Ffs Hmm

bee222 · 25/05/2020 09:39

could you remortgage to pay for a surrogate in the US?

Again, ffs. I can’t believe what I am reading.

StirlingWork · 25/05/2020 09:46

Sorry to hear about this. All I will say is that there are a few times in my life when VERY unexpected things happened to me -- GOOD things, that with hindsight I very much needed and never thought would happen. Best wishes OP

UnaCorda · 25/05/2020 09:47

I really don't understand why people suggest adoption as if it's some inspired new idea. It's a bit like responding to a thread by someone suffering with headaches by saying, "Ooh, have you ever thought of taking Paracetamol?"

DarrellRiversTuckBox · 25/05/2020 09:47

I know, like PP who said something like 'if it's infertility don't fret, it can be sorted'.

Well fuck me! I've been stressing out these past 7 years for nothing!

Iwouldlikesomecake · 25/05/2020 09:52

I hear you OP.

I have a condition that means I’m less likely to conceive, more likely to miscarry and I’m already 39. I won’t ever be eligible for NHS infertility treatment and I can’t afford private treatment (I don’t think the shit odds of pregnancy is worth throwing tens of thousands of pounds at, others might, I don’t) and adoption and surrogacy is not for me. Mostly I am able to be at peace with it but sometimes it just feels really sad. And also mindfulness can fuck off.

OlaEliza · 25/05/2020 09:57

Definitely not. I have one child and desperately wanted but failed to have another. I felt like you do for years. Thinking about it frequently made me cry. It’s easier now but I’m still very sad about it. Many people will say at least you have one. Yes and I’m so grateful for that but it doesn’t stop the longing for another

But insensitive on a thread where the op doesn't even have one, don't you think?

Patch23042 · 25/05/2020 10:03

It’s fine OP. And perfectly normal.

I have no extended family and the posts about missing sisters, grandparents, nephews etc due to the pandemic can make me feel quite low and, frankly, jealous. This, despite the fact I have DCs, a lovely newish DP, good friends, robust health, a stable job, decent neighbours etc. It’s natural to focus on what’s missing sometimes though! Please don’t beat yourself up.

lynzpynz · 25/05/2020 10:29

Sending hugs OP, sometimes what you really need is just sympathy and a hand hold. You feel how you feel. Flowers

I am very high risk of my pelvis snapping (previous surgery etc.) so also classed as risky. Me and DH spoke long and hard about risking having children. I am 7m pregnant, can barely move, on crutches. I'm in a lot of pain, constantly worried about the risk but then I remind myself I'm lucky and this was my decision. Doesn't exactly help when all I want is it to stop being so sore, anxious and for pregnancy be over. If I'd had the added complication of baby likely to also be at huge risk of disability I think I'd have made the same decision you have. Although it doesn't sound like it was really a choice in your case, even if it was presented to you as such. It's easy to say 'oh I'm so lucky' to yourself a million times a day but it doesn't stop you feeling really low. Someone will always have it worse - but that doesn't mean your pain and suffering isn't very legitimate and deserving of support.

Whatever plan life has for you, be kind to yourself. Get support if you need it, and try not to listen to much to the news, others opinions or 'insta' lives - they are often very biased and distorted from reality and make you feel a whole lot worse on your sad days.

maddiemookins16mum · 25/05/2020 10:34

@MinecraftMother your post just made me tear up. How utterly wonderful.

qazxc · 25/05/2020 10:40

Absolutely not unreasonable.
I don't really have any advice apart from be kind to yourself. Flowers

MasakaBuzz · 25/05/2020 10:52

I actively chose not to risk having children. I had quite an abusive childhood, and also have multiple disabilities. I wasn’t prepared to risk having a disabled child, as there is almost certainly a genetic link.

I have spent too much of my life in pain to risk inflicting that on a child.

It’s tough, but less so for me because the abuse of my childhood combined with my disabilities has meant I have never been in a relationship, so the whole thing has always been academic to me.

What really helped is I was made Godparent to a friends child. So I have been through all the stages and watched him and his brothers grow up. It gives me great solace, that when the boys are old men, they will reminisce to their Grandchildren about the holidays they spent as boys on the Norfolk coast, and will remember me. Their own children might also get to know me. I know that in a small way I have influenced and contributed to the men they have become.

It’s all any of us can really ask is to be acknowledged for a generation.

There are ways of interacting with children, that are not the same as actually having them, but that are equally valid.

Be proud of the fact you have done the right thing, by not risking your life of a child’s life.

It’s still shit, but it can be less shit.