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How can anyone take this lockdown seriously anymore?

Our prime minister has just told the nation it’s fine to break the rules so long as you’re being a good parent.

OhTheRoses cheers, not in a proof-reading mood

If you read the rules it says if you have children it may be difficult to adhere to the guidance ( or words to that affect)

absolute rubbish in relation to this situation!! that was about whether or not you would be able to effectively self-isolate in the same house as your children - as the guidance was that you should avoid sharing bathroom/living room, eat separately, etc.

he didn't just break the lockdown rules that everyone was supposed to stick to, he completely flouted the public health guidance on self-isolation when ill/symptomatic. which everyone else struggled to adhere to - whether that was because of childcare, or lack of food in the house or dozens of other reasons - but did their best to observe because they didn't want to infect other people.

Pleeeease lets not cut off our noses to spite our faces. Yes this situation is a shambles, yes Cummings is a liar but we collectively have do our very best to get through this hell together and to be reasonable.
Wear masks in confined spaces, protect each other and just stay alert to others around us to minimise any cross contamination.
Its bloody heartbreaking whats going on atm but we must have hope to overcome this and reinvigorate our economy. We have to put the economy right for the sake of our children and their futures.

I can’t stand the guy but this does sound like a witch hunt

Oh come on. Everyone was told not to go anywhere especially if you had any kind of ill ness. And certainly, given they have family in the same city, they should have stayed where they were.

It is absolutely taking the piss and i don't blame anyone at all now for going to visit family members they haven't seen for weeks and weeks.

Leadership means setting an example and being better than everyone else at keeping the rules. Not "one rule for us and one rule for the rest of you"

But apparently that's what the nation wanted since you voted in the Torys. This type of attitude in Downing Street is disappointing but not unexpected.

If everyone knows what he did was wrong, why would anyone want to go into "fuck it" mode?

Yes, the government are handling this appallingly and yes, we're all struggling, some much more than others, but just throwing the towel in on the rules, as an almost protest, makes no sense whatsoever.

We know if we all did that the R rate would increase.

Be angry. We have every right to be, but I sincerely hope people remember why we've all struggled to come this far.

PicsInRed I would say yes! But they are the ones who’ve reminded me (a previous big Rishi fan), that Rishi is the one who took Sajid Javids job when Javid wouldn’t fire all his advisors and replace them with Cummings appointees: www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-has-sajid-javid-quit-as-chancellor-/amp

I’m truly really disappointed in Rishi, who sent out a copy paste defence of Cummings’ actions. I genuinely was tempted to vote Tory if Rishi was in the lead... until now. Now he looks like a Cummings follower and massively lacking in principles.

Tory friends want Sajid Javid back who they say is a decent person (and anti Cummings). I don’t know enough about it, but do see Cummings is costing the Gov support from Tories and potential Tory-voters.

Me and other floating voters or whatever we’re called are definitely leaning towards Keir over Rishi. Rishi’s reputation is shot to shit like the rest of the cabinet who’ve come out supporting Cummings. Really disappointed in him.

everyone knows what he did was wrong, why would anyone want to go into "fuck it" mode?
Because they love him so much. They want to be just like him and do everything he does.

I worry that id there's a second peak there may have to be a second lockdown. Can you imagine how hard it would be to get people to comply after this?

If you are unhappy with the way Cummings has behaved
PLEASE EMAIL YOUR MP
www.parliament.uk/get-involved/contact-your-mp/
Do not bother with petitions or FB posts or twitter
tell your elected representative
remind them
they work for you

This witch hunt is bad. The MPs who are calling for his resignation are a small handful with whom he has been unpopular for all kinds of reasons for years.

I have seen numerous examples of local people breaking lockdown, for weeks in a far worse way. Mixing with other people.

The papers have been full of photos of people outside the range and B&Q breaking lockdown as they were clearly NOT going for 'essential goods'.

Yet these very same people who didn't social distance are now going berserk because one person plus wife and son travelled in a car to self isolate.

If that isn't hypocrisy what is it?

I've never understood the whataboutery argument re Corbyn. I honestly can't see how he could have done anything worse! In fact he isn't as arrogant as Bozo and would probably have trusted Public Health teams and we wouldn't have the worst death rate in Europe. Labour certainly knew how to stockpile PPE, seeing as what we are using was left over from Blair...

If people use this behaviour as an excuse to do what they want, does that make them better than the person they criticise?

I cannot see any logic in that!

One person driving to self isolate does not mean that the whole country now does WTF they want.

As for being spotted in Houghall Woods or Barnard castle- where is the evidence? I'm pretty sure these two witnesses are Labour activists. If they have photos, let's see them.

Me and other floating voters or whatever we’re called are definitely leaning towards Keir over Rishi.

Well that’s super news, but I’m afraid it’s a very very long time until the next election and until then we have to put up with the government of fuckwits that you voted for last time.

Yet these very same people who didn't social distance are now going berserk because one person plus wife and son travelled in a car to self isolate.
They're not going beserk. Not really. Despite the faux outrage posted online. They're absolutely delighted. They think it's an excuse to ease lockdown without taking the same simple measures other countries have taken to make that less dangerous for the economy and lives.

The reality is it's not an excuse at all. Unless somebody idolises Cummings so much they have to do everything he does.

Jingling
An 11 year old died alone in ICU because his parents were told to stay away

but Cummings can dance to Abba in his Mum's garden for her 71st birthday

go figure

Let’s remember that people have missed the birth of their child, the funeral of their child not being able to hold their loved ones hand as they passed away because they were following the rules.

The rules that apparently weren’t rules, myself and my oh both endured what we think was covid 19 at home alone with a 4 year old and an 8 year old, one of which has severe learning difficulties. My parents are less than a mile away.

We didn’t ask for help because we believed we where doing what was best. Anyone and I mean anyone who approves or tries to justify what this man has done needs to take a good look at them self. How would you feel if he infected your parents, your child while on his journey

Don’t even get me started on his visit to the cathedral and the fact he did not isolate for 14 days.

The rules where simple but he believes he’s above this and our prime minister stood on national tv tonight and backed him. Every single person who voted tory should be ashamed.

I have never voted Tory but I am ashamed of our country

I certainly won’t be following Boris or Dominic as good examples of who to follow in this pandemic. People would be pretty stupid to do what they’ve done.

JinglingHellsBells ok but a lot of us have been adhering to the rules so...

Even people here who have broken the rules... weren’t setting the rules, probably didn’t travel as far or as repeatedly as Cummings, probably didn’t have C19 as Cummings did...

@Newsorrynewagain
Everything you said ....especially the bits about feeling shame .

@Freddiefox hallelujah! Someone else sees the real picture! I have been thinking for the last 6 weeks... how are they going to get a terrified population back to work and school when they need to. Very clever...please people, wake up! This Whole sorry saga has no coincidences. Of course some people will think f@@k it- that’s exactly what they want!

He drove 5 or more hrs, so wasn’t ill. Why couldn’t he parent his own child? Why would you take your infectious selves to elderly parents????

I’m even more disappointed in Jenny Harries. She’s lost All credibility.

Well an earlier poster actually prompted me to email my Tory MP - never done so before but OMFG I'm incandescent!

What a bunch of idiots. Why are some posters making excuses for them? How on earth can it be possible that these characters are running the country?

Honestly I have started to get very angry now. Even if you leave out DC, that Boris is prepared to put his friend first before clarity of social distancing and particularly what self isolating means when you have covid19 is horrendous.

His one job is some kind of clear leadership of message.

Everyone, confused before with his stay alert, shaking hands, fudging messages, is now going to be totally vague about social distancing. Not only that, but businesses lost because of social distancing, people’s livelihoods, from sticking to the rules, are going to think, what was the point?