Did Boris Johnson just call us all bad parents?!

[Hermagsjesty]

Having watched that briefing I am incandescent with rage, less at what Cummings did - I understand people might have needed to make difficult choices and compromises during lockdown - but at the excusing of it. Why not admit it was an error of judgement and apologise?

I have three children. When my husband and I both became ill with what we believed to be Coronavirus in mid-March, we took turns to watch the children whilst the other slept. I lay on the sofa, feeling the illest I have ever felt, while CBeebies played on loop. We relied on neighbours we barely knew to drop off essentials. We would have loved to lean on family but we didn’t because we believed to do so would endanger them and the wider community.

A succession of ministers - and now the Primeminister himself - have suggested that Mr. Cummings behaved as any loving parent would. But many loving parents did not behave as he did. We struggled and made sacrifices in what we believed was the National interest. Are they now suggesting we just don’t love our kids as much as Mr. Cummings loves his?

TabbyMumz
Not only Cumming is a highly recognisable person, he has also accepted he did that trip.
Has it come down to ghost stories and apparitions? You have got no valid argument left, haven’t you?

I cannot believe that people are defending him. If he was well enough to drive 250 odd miles - he is well enough to look after his child.
This is a millionaire government advisor not some poor friendless individual who would struggle if he was struck down. He had family in London and I am pretty sure if he was taken seriously ill the government would have procedures to look after him - he is the prime minister’s right hand man. How anyone can buy this crock of shit is beyond me!

@Tabby because you are just chucking out defences of DC, and not actually engaging in a debate. You have not responded to anything I’ve tackled you on.

Do you think it’s okay for anyone with Covid 19 to travel anywhere else whilst in that highly infectious state and infect other people and families? And if that is the case, why would we need PPE, or any kind of social distancing at all? Why are we doing this lockdown and people not even being able to open a shop even if they don’t have the virus? What is the point?

"how much does Boris pay you per post ?
Are you even human?"
How nasty is that! Goodness me.

It’s pretty simple. Laws for the little people. Because you are all so compliant, we can make exceptions for the really important people.

He hasnt though has he? Hes just kept his private family interests, private!!
Not so private I would say. Now everyone in this country knows his manchild habits, his incompetency in dealing with childcare that every affected family is dealing with, his arrogance on confrontation with evidence, his complete disregard of safety and security of the people close to him and the community they live in.
Not so discreetly rogue I would say.
By the way, how much are you paid?

There's a suggestion on Twitter that the child has severe autism and can only be cared for by peope he trusts. Would/does that change the complexion of the whole story?

No it fucking wouldn't. I'm a SP and had to teach my ASD son what he should do if I got sick. It caused him much distress and tears. Would have made our lives so much easier if I could have told him that if I got ill, he could go to granny's, but we were explicitly told that we would have to isolate if we had symptoms, shared a house with someone with symptoms and that we had to shield our over 70s.

StayinginSummer

@Tabbybecause you are just chucking out defences of DC, and not actually engaging in a debate. You have not responded to anything I’ve tackled you on.

I believe I have. I'm taking part in a debate just like everyone else.

@TabbyMumz harsh but fair.

Interesting interview in the New Statesman with his parents

www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2020/05/exclusive-dominic-cummings-parents-defend-their-son-he-faces-demands-resign

Time in Durham coincides with the weekend his uncle died in London. Could it have been a family coming together to grieve?

Experimenopause

"TabbyMumz
Not only Cumming is a highly recognisable person"
So is Lord Lucan.

@chomalungma if your uncle dies in London why go 265 miles or so away in a different direction?

Even if Cummings does resign it won't make a difference, the public will still be angry, he still took risks with other people's lives and the virus is still here.
He is an absolute prat though.
Boris didn't actually say anyone was a bad parent, that's your interpretation of it. I struggle to understand how the hell Cummings was following guidelines though because he did the opposite of what he advised. Still I'm not surprised. Always one rule them and another for us.
And yes,it's laughable that Boris Johnson would have a clue what being a loving parent entails (probably explains why he thought Cummings actions were alright).

@tabbymumz respectfully, he hasn’t kept his family matters private. His wife wrote a lengthy article for the Spectator about their personal experiences of the illness, going into detail about the child “administering Ribena” and yet failing to mention the fact they travelled 250 miles to Durham. I genuinely don’t understand why she chose to omit that detail if they believed they were following the guidance?

@Tabymunz

The rules are quite simple "Stay at home and isolate for 7 days if you have CV symptoms, any other family members must isolate for 14 days"

His wife was poorly, so she and her husband should have stayed in London for at least 14 days in their home, no travelling to see family or friends for whatever reason.

If there were genuine concerns about childcare, should they both get ill, then one or both should have moved to Durham at the start of the lock down.

Tabby, I get that you are ok with rich, powerful men not following the rules that they lay down for everyone else but I find that pathetic and disgusting.

Gosh, I wonder how his parents got an article into the press to support poor wee shitty Dom

whereas all the THOUSANDS of families who have watched their loved ones die by ipad
do not have the right "connections"

If you think he should not have been free to see his family when the rest of us were not
EMAIL YOUR MP
www.parliament.uk/get-involved/contact-your-mp/

"Has it come down to ghost stories and apparitions?"
Apparently so. Perhaps he also went to a fairground and went on the big dipper? Sure the press could find a witness to say he did that too.

They have family and friends in london even with an autistic child I would assume the child would be closer to the people in London as they spend the most part of their time there due to work (as I said it's an assumption)

People are praising him across the internet for how much he cares for his parents I was blocked after saying he cares so much for them he bought them coronavirus right to their door my mom would go fucking apocalyptic at me if I pulled a stunt like that I stayed locked down I didn't go and get my adult daughter from wales like I wanted to because lockdown would have been way easier with two adults around she stayed in student accommodation I've stayed at home

His driving around like this makes a mockery of even small sacrifices

I took in a friend disabled child when she was taken to hospital (not covid and not recently). I'd do it again. I'd do it with covid.

I'd provide care if necessary along with the governments rules. "Leave home to provide necessary care"

I wouldn't be taking in a family with mild suspected covid symptoms who have travelled 250 miles to seek care.

I think you are ridiculous to watch Boris excuse a paid advisor with quite unbelievable reasons and decide that Boris is saying that you are a bad parent.
Get over yourself.

f your uncle dies in London why go 265 miles or so away in a different direction

If you can't be with your uncle, you can go and see your family - who are grieving about their brother / BIL

Chances of two relatively young, fit parents simultaneously being too ill to care for one four year old child when we are incessantly told that covid 19 is a mild virus for such people, were very small. He therefore had no justifiable reason to put his ill wife in a confined space with himself and their child for several hours as he drove all the way to Durham so that he could get close to people he assumed to be healthy and Covid free. It was such a blatant disregard of the letter and spirit of the guidelines it’s laughable.

Do as i say, not as i do... arrogant and makes it appear he doesnt believe his own advice.

@hermajesty that's my issue with it if it was all allowed as in the rules why was it never mentioned before so the rest of the country knew this was ok
I'm sure theirs been parents and especially single parents who have generally been worried about how they would look after dc if they were to get ill who could of been reassured to know they could of gone and done similar if they have parents with a Annex or similar setup, or somehow used family if need be