is 15yo dd eating too much?

[nuttyveg]

i've posted on teenagers, but i haven't gotten many responses, so i thought i'd post here for traffic.
15yo dd has been eating more recently and i don't know if it's too much or not, she's a healthy weight, not like a beanpole but not fat.
today she's had
2 slices of vegan cheese on seedy toast and a milky coffee made with oat milk and stevia for breakfast
about 5 wedges, 4 mini falafels, 3 oreos and a small handful of salt and vinegar crisps for lunch
4 more oreos as a snack
and will be having chickpea and roasted vegetable soup for dinner with a slice or two of seedy bread
and homemade apple cake with custard for pudding
and she usually has a bowl of cereal with oat milk before bed, so i imagine she will tonight too.
thank you for any responses

That's nothing, I used to eat like 3x that as a teen, and I wasn't fat.

Re the B12 OP - get some nutritional yeast flakes (if you don't already of course) they are like the parmesan substitute for vegans, quite a cheesy flavour (IMO) and they have added B12. this is a popular variety - but we get Morrisons own brand.

I would always sprinkle it (heavily) on things like pasta, pizza and on top of soup.

Her diet doesn't seem like "too much" but she just needs to get more balance in terms of veg / carbs / etc. It's very carb heavy.

It's quite a carby diet though...Carbs just make me hungrier and hungrier whereas when I eat some animal protein or fat, I feel full up. Not saying she should eat that but I don't know what the vegan alternative to that would be?

What her protein intake? It does sound very cars heavy, she needs to balance her diet out more.

I personally don’t think it’s over eating she’s a teenager who is growing.

If she's not got a mature enough palate to drink coffee plain, she shouldn't be drinking it at all.

WTF? I don't drink coffee plain but I still love coffee.

*carbs heavy

If she's not got a mature enough palate to drink coffee plain, she shouldn't be drinking it at all.

No!! Costa, Starbucks etc... would simply be busy if they all had that train of through, not everyone lines Americano coffee

Soooo. Sounds a bit like they are admitting they are not vegan....

Cross contact is not the same as actually having milk in.

I think Galaxy should be as upfront and honest as oreo, yes.

But they are specifically marketing three bars of chocolate as being vegan. They have 'vegan' on the label and were getting everyone hyped up because they are vegan.

But like Oreos they have milk as a cross contact which according to you means they aren't vegan at all...so that's false advertising, no? So do you think we could sue them?

i'm glad your son has managed to not have a disordered relationship with food, i hope my dd manages too. i'd hate for her to have to suffer like i did.

Ironically if you monitor her intake to the level that you know exactly how many biscuits and wedges she's eaten, she will pick up on this and be more likely to develop a disordered relationship with food. Focus on something else. Stop micromanaging her diet, it won't end well.

Sounds good! Maybe swap out some biscuits for fruit. Nuts are good for snacking too.

Good I’m glad you enjoy baking together. You could try making these some time. A cup of dry weight is around 120g. Fats are heavier, around 210-225g, oil being at the lighter end. chocolatecoveredkatie.com/healthy-oreos/

As for people saying about the potential cross contamination with milk in Oreos and them not being vegan. Your dd is only 16. There is plenty of time for her to be more strict as she grows up tbh if veganism is the route she chooses. Lockdown is not the time.

Carbs just make me hungrier and hungrier whereas when I eat some animal protein or fat, I feel full up.

Meh, I tried a low carb 'diet' with lots of animal protein and fat years ago and I felt like utter shit. I was constantly hungry, nauseous and had no energy. As soon as I started eating carbs again I immediately felt better.

I now eat a high carb vegan diet and I have never felt better.

I'd say that sounds fine. I don't think it's healthy to be counting out the amount of wedges tbh.

I think that sounds a perfectly normal amount of food (and very healthy).

@nuttyveg it sounds as if your daughter used to eat a healthy, sensible diet. Sensible is important at this age because you're training your teenager's eating habits for life. My parents made a lot of mistakes, as have I (!!), but have always been super grateful as I watched friends snacking, dieting, beating themselves up, bingeing etc that I got into the habit of eating three biggish meals a day at home (not always healthiest meals, in fairness) and have never got into the habit of thinking about food all day long, constantly being a bit hungry and unsatisfied etc.

Did things go wrong when she decided to become a vegan? I'm guessing the rest of the family doesn't eat this way. Could you compromise and have her stick to vegetarianism at home so you can all eat together much more of the time? If she's going to carry on being a vegan then I think you need to sit down with her and plan out a careful meal plan for the week, to make sure she's getting enough nutrients, and enough fruit and veg. I wouldn't let her have artificial sweeteners at all. I don't know any adults who drink coffee with stevia, and it seems a slightly eating disordered thing to be doing. It would be better to have sugar, though really I think 15 is a bit young to drink coffee at all unless she genuinely likes the taste (ie to young to rely on the caffeine!).

As for people saying about the potential cross contamination with milk in Oreos and them not being vegan. There is plenty of time for her to be more strict as she grows up tbh if veganism is the route she chooses.

She doesn't need to be more strict because Oreos are vegan. Even PETA says Oreos are fine for vegans and they're pretty nutty strict.

Falafel (contains legumes) custard and cheese have protein.
Also, teen could be eating vegetable soup.
Her diet sounds okay to me.

It's vegan cheese though which, unless it's one of the speciality cashew cheeses (expensive!), tends to have very little to no protein.

"I don't know any adults who drink coffee with stevia"

You probably know some who drink tea with sweetener though. I think this is the silliest thing for people to be focusing on and as for saying it's a sign of an eating disorder...

"I think 15 is a bit young to drink coffee at all unless she genuinely likes the taste (ie to young to rely on the caffeine!)."

At what age is it good to rely on caffeine?!
I'm not saying there aren't any issues with caffeine, but there are benefits too.

That seems like very little... this is what my 15 yo DD (5'5, size 6) ate yesterday:

Bowl of Greek yoghurt with berries and honey, peppermint tea
Cheese roll, bag of crisps, apple (school-provided lunch)
packet of skinny popcorn, handful of grapes
4 sausages, good 2 handfuls of oven fries, peas, fried egg
4 big spoonfuls of Ben & Jerry's chocolate brownie ice cream
1 ice pop

Not a particularly healthy day (usually more veg with her evening meal, no crisps and more fruit with her lunch) but she eats like a horse and only drinks water (gallons thereof) and peppermint tea. At 15 most children are still growing (and eating accordingly).

Your DD doesn't seem to be eating many veggies for a vegan...

Your DD doesn't seem to be eating many veggies for a vegan...

There is no law that says vegans have to eat vegetables you know .

It's hardly a pig out! If she starts to put on a bit of weight maybe encourage her to snack more healthily and exercise but honestly, the teenagers I work with sink huge bags of crisps and family sized chocolate bars pretty much every lunchtime and look like sticks! This menu is way more healthy than what I'm witnessing!

As an aside, I used to be vegan and there are so many things you can't have that sometimes you can fixate a bit on the treats you can. I would expect that all vegans (with the exception of those who are vegan for health reasons) are very happy they can still have oreos!

These food threads
are bonkers !!!
Why all the unnecessary details about the bread being seeded ? And the cake being home made? Your question was about volume of food and you answered your own question by saying she is not over weight
Examine why this has got you anxious enough to start two treads?? Have you got unresolved issues yourself? Have you actually spoken to your daughter??

The absolute reach some of you are doing talking about disordered eating.