To be annoyed by this meme regarding knickers?

[UnaCorda]

For the umpteenth time I have come across a photo of an underwear-clad woman seductively and suggestively pulling down the waistband of her pants. It's bad enough that photos of scantily-clad women are so ubiquitous, but this meme really raises my feminist hackles as it's so unnecessary. When do you ever see a picture of a man doing this?

We all know that a woman's vulva and vagina are underneath her pants and we're aware that an early stage of having sex tends to be the removal of said pants, so it's obvious where this choreographed come-hithering comes from, but for the love of Marks and Spencer's lingerie department is it really necessary to spell it out?

I'd say the word meme is having an identity crisis

old meme = new trope
current meme = photo with funny words

It's not a meme ffs, it's a marketing/modelling trope.

Not everything that propagates is a meme.

A trope is a sort of meme...honestly people, look it up.

wikidiff.com/meme/trope

I'm not sure this thread has gone as intended. What started as high-minded feminism has deteriorated into perving over pictures of men's cocks and bickering about what is meant by meme

I don't think pictures of people in clothes should be allowed anymore. We all know they've got naughty parts under the clothes, really, don't we. And that the removal of clothes is a precursor to sex.

Adverts for clothes should just be pictures of the clothes folded up after coming off the washing line, now. Perhaps on the lawn. Much more wholesome.

Can anyone explain why the sexualised knicker-selling photo is not a meme then? I'm asking for a friend ...

There's overlap. They're not one and the same.

In this case it's a marketing thing. Marketing is a form of storytelling. Therefore, it's a trope:

www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/1hryp5/eli5_the_difference_between_a_meme_trope/

You’ve never seen a Calvin Klein advert. Do you live under a rock? Seriously where have you been?

Ha! I don't read magazines and don't tend to watch tv with adverts.

I’m not sure what you are moaning about, meh. I love the Calvin Klein adverts for boxers with the males models, I used to have the Freddie Ljungberg one as a poster at uni 😁.

I don’t really get your point, sorry, but I enjoyed the pictures on the first page.

Yes! It's a trope, I knew it

What started as high-minded feminism has deteriorated into perving over pictures of men's cocks and bickering about what is meant by meme grin

that made me laugh

The thread that keeps on giving, I needed a smile today.

If I had a body like the woman in the bikini, rather than like a burst inner tube, I'd wear tiny pants and I'd go around smiling at firemen and their puppies.

Not every picture is a meme... You can say "picture" you don't need yo try being "cool"

I'm aware of this! My point is that it doesn't seem to be possible to take a picture of a woman (or, apparently, man - I stand corrected) in knickers without her (or him) tugging provocatively at the waistband. It's that aspect that I was categorising as a meme (or trope...), not the pictures themselves.

@pmdw they're not one and the same, no... but a trope is a category of meme, and that reddit link doesn't prove otherwise to me.

... I .... I can’t decide if this is a prank thread. It can’t be serious

But yeah. YABU for making me click on a thread I thought was going to show me a meme about knickers. And it didn’t.

Thanks for the thread OP, needed some cheering up and some scantily clad men have done that

I have just disappeared down a google rabbit hole about the difference between tropes and memes... I don't even know any more. I'm done.

THIS is an appropriate meme about knickers

A trope isn’t a category of meme. They’re different things. Not even your own link backed you up on your assertion on that front.

Yeah it’s a messy world of definitions out there!

Have a look on Tik tok op. Literally hundreds of clips of men posing with not much on.

But photos of people not wearing a lot aren't what I'm referring to. I'm talking about photos of women people in underwear being hyper-sexualised by adding a virtual arrow (i.e the lowering of the waistband) pointing to what's inside the underwear, even if the clothing itself is the ostensible focus (i.e. an advert for said underwear).

You don't see adverts for shoes with the model saucily stepping out of them just to remind everyone that there's a foot inside. (Cue 25 people posting pictures of exactly that...) Or adverts for hats held at a jaunty angle lest we forget there might be a head underneath.

We are all suffering enough at the moment, OP without you making us look at lovely young men in their pants.

We are all suffering enough at the moment, OP without you making us look at lovely young men in their pants.

Humble apologies.