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Trying to work out how many people are still following the lockdown rules

153 replies

newmane40593 · 21/05/2020 23:41

So it turns out nearly every member of mine and DH family are not following the lockdown rules in some way. I only found out today by chance with some of members of my family after hearing them in the background whilst on the phone to my mum.

According to Dsis the vast majority of people are breaking the rules in some way.

I Thought people might be honest on a thread like this which is anonymous.

So AIBU to think most people are breaking the rules?
Please vote AIBU if your sticking to the rules.
YANBU if you are breaking them.

OP posts:
shinynewapple2020 · 24/05/2020 01:28

We are making sure we are doing all the things we are 'allowed' to do which will improve quality of life so have been getting out everyday for a walk and since we've been allowed to drive out for exercise have driven to the countryside for a longer walk, taking a picnic. Also driven out for trip to garden centre.

All low risk activities , kept distance, but help to maintain good mental and physical health.

tigerbear · 24/05/2020 01:31

@Popc0rn it only makes senses in itself, as a single rule.
But taking into account that people are allowed to travel on busy trains (esp in London) and buses, ie being in a confined space inside with others / allowed to send children into school from June / allowed to have cleaners and nannies into your house / allowed to have estate agents and buyers into your house / allowed to go to packed beaches...

Then, no, it doesn’t make sense.

strugglingwithdeciding · 24/05/2020 01:33

I know of a couple of 80 year olds who have broken the rules , and technically my family have with my poor Nan in her 80's is struggling not seeing anyone and I know my auntie went round and social distanced in garden the other day as my Nan was really struggling being on her own and not getting to see anyone , she doesn't qualify as a shielded person and she is also getting fed up now as realistically at her age as she says she doesn't know how much time she has left and doesnt want to be sat lonely on her own and she was happy to take her chances . Happy to do lockdown for few weeks but loneliness kicked in now . I think by now everyone was hoping we would be able to meet with maybe one other household. I know more people bending the rules than complying fully

peoplepleaser1 · 24/05/2020 01:34

@tigerbear I acc sept that you are f worries about you or your DH catching it but do you not feel this in turn might mean you pass it into someone else who isn't lucky enough to be young and / or in good health?

I'm not trying to be goady, and if that scenario doesn't bother you then that's your prerogative but I'm baffled by it myself!

tigerbear · 24/05/2020 01:49

@peoplepleaser1 I’m not saying what I did today was right, but weighted against everything else that I mentioned before that are technically allowed, but the same risk, I can’t see how me having my friend over changes the risk level of other people getting it?

MysticMeghan · 24/05/2020 01:52

In Scotland on full lockdown. Only leave house to work/exercise/shop. Go to Tesco once a week for the click and collect. On the way home we don't go straight home but take the car a few miles up the motorway and back again because my car is 12 years old and if you don't drive it for a week and then just take it a few miles up the road the battery goes flat and the brakes seize. That's as rebellious as it gets.

Next week we get to meet one someone from another household outside but neither DH nor myself have any family and no friends close by. Nicola Sturgeon has imposed a 5 mile limit but my best friend lives 25 miles away and doesn't drive because of illness before lockdown we haven't seen each other since just after Christmas. Rather cruelly, the 5 mile limit doesn't apply if you are related and going to visit family. So I am going anyway because I haven't actually spoken to another person other than DH and DD in 4 months. I won't go in her house and we will stay 2m apart. She's bringing tea in a flask and I will bring my own cup and we will go for a walk and have tea on the beach rather than in her kitchen. If I need a wee I'll go behind a bush with a sheewee. I hope to God it doesn't rain. And no, we're not going to hug like we usually do.

Yousicktwistedfruit · 24/05/2020 02:17

I’m sticking religiously to the rules the only person who goes out is my husband and that’s only once a week on a Saturday to do the food shop. I haven’t left my home in 9 weeks I have seen no one apart from my husband in all that time. I have weekly 4 hour phone calls with my parents and I FaceTime my niece who is staying with my parents at the minute because my sister is a key worker and so is her partner. I would give anything to see my family but I know I can’t. It really pisses me off that I’m sitting here not seeing anyone apart from my husband and there are people all over the country breaking the rules because it’s all a game to them.

Lynda07 · 24/05/2020 02:23

I don't want to accuse anyone else of being unreasonable, people have to interpret the 'rules', such as they are, for themselves. I'm no curtain twitcher. I've stayed at home throughout and intend to continue to do so for the time being but it's easy for me, I recognise it is not so easy for others. As long as everyone is careful with sanitising and keeping distance, they should be alright.

PrimeroseHillAnnie · 24/05/2020 02:25

I and most of my neighbours are sticking to the rules. If you had treated a Covid patient you wouldn’t be so cavalier with your own health.

isittheholidaysyet · 24/05/2020 02:29

We've walked to people's houses to drop things off then stayed for a socially distanced chat, them in their doorway us two metres away on the drive. With 5 different households in the village.

Stop to chat from 2 metres away when we meet villagers.

Haven't managed to keep shopping trips down to one a week. We are doing one every 5 ish days, with a milk and bread run to the local shop in between.

So no we haven't stuck to the rules, but trying to.

understandmenow · 24/05/2020 03:40

@Yousicktwistedfruit you can meet with one of your family, outside in a park and staying two meters apart.

You can also leave the house for exercise as often as you wish.

The rules you've set yourself are not the current rules.

understandmenow · 24/05/2020 03:41

@Yousicktwistedfruit that's assuming you're in England.

Ponoka7 · 24/05/2020 04:22

@Jane67996, do what you want, but you haven't got the right to put people at risk in the supermarket. You don't know by looking at someone if they have got a reason to be concerned about this virus. It must be scary to be newly diagnosed with something at the moment.

Which is why we shouldn't just disregard 'underlying conditions', any of us, including our children could get a diagnosis of something at any time.

I'm supposed to be shielding. I've carried on providing childcare for my DD who works, not as much as usual and when my household had the symptoms, we did isolate for the recommended time. Well actually longer because we were so ill. All of my children are key workers. My middle and eldest have mixed households because of childcare and my Sister has been round to theirs because of her mental health. I haven't been but I've accepted lifts because the buses are packed thanks to them being hourly, so I do think 'what's the difference?'.

Since around VE day it's clear that people aren't sticking to the guidance. Even though we've had the highest deaths outside of London and we have the most people shielding and everyone now knows someone who has had a relative die. There's a few familiar faces from public services who have died, all under 60, as well.

notangelinajolie · 24/05/2020 04:45

I'm the only person I know who has stuck to it but only if you don't count the time DH had to drive me through a tent in my GP's carpark for a B12 jab. Apart from that I haven't left the house since March 23rd.
DH and DD are now back at work. DH is an essential worker and was shielding but now feels he will be safe Confused and DD was working from home but had to go back in because our crappy internet kept going down.
And practically everyone on my road (including some very elderly residents) have been out having street parties for weeks.

Yousicktwistedfruit · 24/05/2020 04:53

@understandmenow I can’t meet my family I have asthma and both my parents have autoimmune diseases and have been told by the doctors to stay in for 12 weeks. I’m not willing to risk getting the virus for the sake of going out so I’m staying put until they say the virus has gone.

Mintjulia · 24/05/2020 04:56

In 9 weeks, apart from within my household, I’ve been to Tesco 5 times, I’ve been for a bike ride with a friend - yesterday, and I’ve got the plumber coming this morning.

I’m coping but it’s getting harder. I want to go back to work, and ds to school as soon as humanly possible.

FilthyforFirth · 24/05/2020 05:34

I have largely stuck to the rules but I am pregnant and suffering from HG. My 2 year old has been to my dads house 3 times when I have had a scan and I have sat in his garden. We are at breaking point and soon I intend to create my own bubble with my dads house. I will be following all other rules still (the HG helps as I am bed bound a lot of the time) but DS will be spending more time at his grandparents come June.

AdultierAdult · 24/05/2020 05:37

This thread is so disheartening. We are following the rules, only letting 12 week old DS’ grandparents see him through a window. I’ve only driven my car three times since lockdown started.

VashtaNerada · 24/05/2020 05:47

We’re sticking to the rules, although we’re both working and using public transport so we’re not exactly in lockdown any more. Not seeing friends or family apart from brief social distancing visits (chatting from the end of the path whilst on a walk). Next door neighbour has had regular visits throughout however Confused

Wondergirl100 · 24/05/2020 06:06

People can be so judgemental and we need to be realistic now - lockdown is harder for some than others. I have young children and have hated much of it - I started letting my son bend the rules and kick a ball about with a friend in the park a couple of weeks ago. We didn't let them go near each other but it cheered him up a bit.

After they said you could meet one person (but failed to mention children) - I let them play a bit more outdoors - I felt a bit anxious about it but truly my kids mental health was suffering, they are not at risk from Covid we work from home and never go anywhere near vulnerable people - so it was a calculated risk.

THey now play outside on the street with neighbouring kids sometimes - I don't know if that is a breach of the rules, the govt has failed to mention children - it's their own street and when they are all outside they end up playing on their bikes together.

Children - after 9 weeks - need to play - I live in London where the rate of the virus transmission is now very low - building sites are packed, trains and tubes are running with people in far closer proximity than my kids are in the street with friends.

Nobody has been in my house and I hven't been in any other houses.

I respect all NHS workers - but all this emotive stuff like 'I work in intensive care and these threads make me sick' - its not fair - you need to look at peoples real risk - there are widespread public health risks to children being cooped up without play and without friends.

I know many parents who are depressed after weeks without support - lockdown is ending now, we are probably a week away from further loosening and being allowed to meet in groups - there is no rational reason for people to hide away now.\

And those who say you have barely left the house - fine, it clearly suits your personality - throughout lockdown I went out as much as was allowed and chatted to neighbours at 2m distance if I got a chance - I needed that human interaction.

I think people are not seeing that lockdown is ending now - we are allowed to go out and there is clearly no logic behind meeting one person or 3. And people are making their own decisions. I see a lot of social distance chats in the park - remember all the bars and pubs are shut etc we are still living a very very different life to normal.

Wondergirl100 · 24/05/2020 06:09

@AdultierAdult lockdown hs been very hard - but rather than disheartening I think you could look at this as a natural moving on from the stricter side of it. The vast majority of people have kept mostly to the rules - isn't that an incredible achievement? It was never going to have 100 per cent of people all the time.

As I said - even when you see people chatting in a park - our normal life has still been put completely on hold - no bars, no festivals, no large gatherings - people are mainly keeping 2m away.

We need to be more positive about what we did achivev - and stop judging each other moving forward. Mental health is a real real issue in the UK - it was before lockdown and we now need to support people as they get the human interaction and help they need.

It would be a disaster to keep kids locked up for 9 weeks then push them straight back to school - they need play and friendship before anything else can work

rosecreakybex · 24/05/2020 06:19

We were following to the letter until a couple of weeks ago. Mental health issues here and upon risk assessment decided that introducing a tiny amount of normality would be safer than not.

DD and I have been to a friend's house and sat in the garden (socially distanced) and my friend and her DD came round to mine for a BBQ. All socially distanced with own disposable BBQs and tongs, crockery etc.

GnomeDePlume · 24/05/2020 06:52

I am sticking to the guidelines. My job means that I can wfh just as well if not better than I can work from an office. Fortunately this also works for me.

My family is working out of home - all keyworkers. The nature of their different jobs means that social distancing isnt possible.

I took the view that I cant stop the disease coming into the house but I can make sure I am not someone who will pass it on so I am following the guidelines.

Music101 · 24/05/2020 07:06

We are sticking to the rules - me and my three kids, as are my sister and her partner in their household, and my nurse friend in hers. As anecdotal examples.

The other day a friend asked me to two different meet ups in the park and each would have been a group of 4 so I guess he has kind of given up (I didn’t go).

Lots of groups of people not social distancing in the park.

Dalamalama · 24/05/2020 07:21

I'm still sticking to the rules as much as I can. I work as a delivery driver and I've come across families and friends getting together in gardens with no social distancing.

I've noticed while delivering, people aren't as bothered anymore and are more willing to get too near to me than they were at first.

Lots of people out now and a lot more traffic back on the roads. I think Boris was a complete idiot tell telling people they could travel for exercise etc, best way to spread the virus more.

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