Seadide stupidly busy

[mummydoris2006]

I live in a seaside resort (Slegness) and today it is absolutely heaving with people. I understand new guidelines say you can drive and enjoy the beach etc for the day but people are really taking the Mickey!

The beach has human excrement on it, the queues for supermarkets are worse as people are queing hoping they can use the toilet and one person even knocked on a residents door and asked if his pregnant girlfriend could use the toilet. Upon being told no he told the homeowner they were out of order as she was pregnant and they'd drove from Essex.

I keep seeing threads where people that live by the sea etc are being slated for not welcoming visitors but the reality is due to the amount of people flocking to the coast we can't safely enjoy our own hometown, the streets are far to narrow to be able to stay 2m away from people with the influx of visitors.If any local dares to comment we are immediately hit with the "you wouldn't have jobs if it wasnt for us". Neither my own or any of my families jobs are tourist reliant and amazingly we manage to keep our economy going well enough during the winter months.

I understand people want a bit of normality and it's really hard on children but surely you should respect the place you visit and as people that live here all year round we should be able to safely enjoy our own hometown.

ExactLy

If people will steal gel from hospitals(!), what makes a bus safe?

Our shore roads will be closed again this weekend along with all public toilets

Then your council are fuckwits.

Nothing wrong with a pee outdoors @HelenaDove. The liquid sinks into the ground and is subsumed into nature where the minerals are absorbed. No smell remains. But you do need a modicum of distance for privacy. If it helps you relax, I pee outside on my dogwalking route several times a week, behind a clump of trees.

@XingMing

You wrong, piss stinks. Can you not hold your bladder for the duration of your walk 🤢

As someone who enjoys a good whole-day hike, who has spent several years doing military-adjacent exercises, and then lots of field surveys and archaeological work in often remote and ill-serviced areas (not many loos about when you're halfway up a volcano in Greece), I am no stranger to an outdoor pee.

It will only smell if a) you're very dehydrated or b) there are an lot of you using the same bush.

That said, unless you're having a real emergency I wouldn't advise doing this in a residential or built up area.

Happily, dwell in the wilds and walk in them too, so no problem finding a bush. In town, I wouldn't, MrsRoger but there, the loos are usually open, though not at present.

I dont think human piss is worse than dog piss @MrsRogerLima. Or do you think all the dogs going for walks hold it in til they get home?

You wrong, piss stinks. Can you not hold your bladder for the duration of your walk

I'm a wild wee-er too - usually if I go to a parkrun which doesn't have toilets nearby. I will absolutely find a bush. And occasionally on other runs.

Once I was on a drive and I had got to the point where I was absolutely going to stop at the next layby, open both passenger-side doors and crouch between them. My bladder was like an enormous football (and yes I had gone (several times) before I left home 90 minutes before). Anyway, just at the point where I had decided it was distracting me too much a petrol station loomed with a Starbucks and nice toilets!

I now know not to drink coffee before I go on a longish drive.

@Porcupineinwaiting comparing a dog and humans ability to assess what is appropriate is ridiculous.

Fwiw I'd love it if people didn't own dogs and cats that piss and shit in public places but that's a whole other thread.

Other countries are managing to have toilets open. How do you think hospitals are managing? Wash your hands, when you leave the toilet, and use gel too. And delivery drivers are also complaining about public toilets. Where are they supposed to go?

Good post @urkidding
So many people are making essential journeys including delivery drivers. Lots of key workers commute to work, there's people travelling to provide essential care to vulnerable family and friends, there's emergencies. Then there's all the international arrivals who might need the loo after leaving the airport.
The public toilets should be open.

I dont understand why people with large houses and gardens are quite so desperate to go for days out already.
If you’re in a small house or flat with little outside space, if your children have special needs and the change to their routines have thrown you all into turmoil, if you’re in an abusive relationship or single and alone I completely understand, it must be unbelievably difficult, nigh on unbearable being so restricted.
We have a fairly large house and good sized gardens. There are 3 generations of us living here, soon to be 4, all bumbling along pretty peacefully. We live a 10 minute walk from a vast beach. My husband is very vulnerable so we shall all be keeping to ourselves, having deliveries etc. until the picture is better/clearer.
That aside, I think social distancing will be the key for getting out of this horrible situation so I (perfectly healthy) am more than happy to stay in the garden this summer. If more people with private facilities could be a little more patient and leave public spaces to people who desperately need them, we’ll all be out of this more quickly.

Totally agree @Chillipeanuts

We have a house, garden and walks on our doorstep... 5 adults who all get along (Inc 3 NHS frontline staff) here for the duration and 11 year old DSS here 1/2 the time.

Would I like to go to the peak district, lake district or coast?! Hell yes! Do I need to go?! Hell no! And we will cope

Other countries are managing to have toilets open. How do you think hospitals are managing? Wash your hands, when you leave the toilet, and use gel too.

Given the importance attached to hand washing, closing places where hands can be washed seems especially bizarre!

We have two of us in a three bed house with a good size garden. No dc.
We live one street away from one park and another is behind our house.
I’ve not been to either since March because it unfair on people who don’t have gardens or who have dc they want to get out.

I live 10 mins drive from a large beach, i believe its been very busy on nice days.
I value my health so i am going nowhere near it.
Let them come if they want, if they get ill or they pass virus onto relatives thats their problem.

People who believe they have a divine right of ownership of a beach because they live nearer to it are delusional. We are all equally entitled to visit beaches and beauty spots.

FliesandPies Thu 21-May-20 16:14:23
Face it Wheresthesanitygone, you're just an entitled moron for going there at all

That’s a lovely, insightful well argued personal attack, flies, thank you for sharing it. Would you care to explain why keeping to government guidance, walking along a very quiet beach, not even sitting on it, then going home makes me an entitled moron? @FliesandPies

There have been 4 serious incidents on the beaches in Cornwall and at least two fatalities. This has involved the air ambulance, the RNLI, as well as land ambulances. One was an overturned RIB, which happened back in 2013.

Details coming through, one local was saying that the ambulances struggled to get through due to parked vehicles.

Birling Gap: Warning after visitors pictured walking near cliff edges www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-52796601

@Wheresthesanitygone That was a jokey remark on my part, in response to others talking about 'entitled' and 'morons' wrt people going to the beach

Apologies Flies I hadn’t looked at the thread for days and that was the first comment that was new so I didn’t scroll back.

It was too many mixed messages. 'You can go to the beach or parks' but no public loos open...

YABU as you do not own the seaside.... but i do think if people are visiting they need to bring something to pee into if all the loos are closed - or if they have a weak bladder and cannot do this, stay at home. But sunshine, fresh air and vitamin D is good for the immune system so let people get out and about.