Seadide stupidly busy

[mummydoris2006]

I live in a seaside resort (Slegness) and today it is absolutely heaving with people. I understand new guidelines say you can drive and enjoy the beach etc for the day but people are really taking the Mickey!

The beach has human excrement on it, the queues for supermarkets are worse as people are queing hoping they can use the toilet and one person even knocked on a residents door and asked if his pregnant girlfriend could use the toilet. Upon being told no he told the homeowner they were out of order as she was pregnant and they'd drove from Essex.

I keep seeing threads where people that live by the sea etc are being slated for not welcoming visitors but the reality is due to the amount of people flocking to the coast we can't safely enjoy our own hometown, the streets are far to narrow to be able to stay 2m away from people with the influx of visitors.If any local dares to comment we are immediately hit with the "you wouldn't have jobs if it wasnt for us". Neither my own or any of my families jobs are tourist reliant and amazingly we manage to keep our economy going well enough during the winter months.

I understand people want a bit of normality and it's really hard on children but surely you should respect the place you visit and as people that live here all year round we should be able to safely enjoy our own hometown.

Right now that infrastructure isn't there so all these people descending on tourist areas are putting a strain on local services that aren't currently prepared for additional people

But they should be prepared for additional people. It’s completely unacceptable that they’re not. And if they’re saying they’ll only provide that infrastructure when there’s an opportunity to monetise visitors, that’s even more reprehensible.

But they should be prepared for additional people. It’s completely unacceptable that they’re not.

yes, it's completely unacceptable that most of the country is still on near-lockdown, part of hospitals, schools, business premises close etc but that the seaside is not prepared for Joe Stupid who wants a day on the beach because it's his human right.

We've been in lockdown for the last two months. There are still restrictions on which businesses can operate. There are people who cannot currently go to work because there's no childcare or school available. Some seasonal workers travel from elsewhere and right now they can't do that. They should not have to prepare for additional people over and above what they would usually have during the off/closed season because people should be using a modicum of commonsense and not heading out en masse to their nearest tourism hotspot.

But people who live by the sea haven’t had the last 9 weeks to enjoy it. We’ve only been allowed to sit and and enjoy the beach since everyone else has.
I’m sorry you feel you don’t live somewhere very nice, but because my family and I do, you think we should stay at home now that other people can drive 150 miles to visit our town?
Our lives and jobs are here. Yes it’s by the beach, but it’s our home. Our family live here. It’s really disheartening to see our beach absolutely packed with people during a global pandemic, and knowing the majority don’t live here.
I’ve started having to take my daughter to a little secret beach (which fortunately very few visitors know about) during the week, and we are now staying home during the weekend to finish home schooling as too many people are wandering around our town and visiting the beach at the weekends
Please don’t think I have a problem with visitors and holiday makers, I work in hospitality and rely on a busy summer for work. However, at the moment only the supermarkets are open. There’s no businesses to support here. All the visitors do is make the queues for the supermarkets even longer than they already are.

Please visit seaside towns. But after this is a bit more under control.

They should not have to prepare for additional people over and above what they would usually have during the off/closed season

They don’t close the toilets off season. They need to deal with reality. Closing toilets isn’t keeping people away. If some councils can open them, they all can.

If they don't have anyone available to clean and maintain them then they don't need to open them.

I'm very worried by the "tourists won't be welcomed here" comments which are also reflected by comments I have seen on the blog of the company we use to have our yearly Cornwall holiday.

I'm a nice, considerate person. My yearly Cornwall holiday consists of renting an out of the way cottage and walking the coast path with my family. We don't litter, we definitely don't use the countryside as a toilet and we don't make a nuisance. We might venture out to the pub for a quiet drink and meal once or twice during the week.

As I've posted on another thread, we are booked for October this year and this year we are taking my stepdad for his first break away since my mum passed away. He has been so so excited about going, and now he is on the phone wanting to cancel because he is worried we won't be welcome and may get verbally attacked or have the car vandalised because of the actions of a grubby, disgusting minority.

Scarlet I live in Birmingham, which is further away from the sea than any other city.

It's hard for those here living in a 'concrete jungle' who don't have the advantage of living near the sea or a picturesque spot.

There are huge pockets of deprivation here and for many families the annual school family daytrip is the first time in their lives they can see the sea.

Is it fair that only those in seaside towns or 30 miles away from the sea get to go but those in highrises in deprived areas can't?

I don't blame anybody for wanting to visit the sea. I'm not going myself, but I don't blame others for going.

If they don't have anyone available to clean and maintain them then they don't need to open them

Of course they have those workers available. When were public toilets ever closed in May before? Who cleaned them in May last year?

In theory, these people aren't doing anything wrong. They've been told they can travel.

HOWEVER, it's still really stupid, and these are the folk we'll blame when the second wave hits.

Is it fair that only those in seaside towns or 30 miles away from the sea get to go but those in highrises in deprived areas can't?

Is it fair that local services will be strained to the detriment of the people who actually live there? Is it fair that the people who actually live there are forced out of using their own local area? Is it fair that the selfish actions of the people crowding into the tourist areas will push the numbers up in both locations due to carrying the virus back and forth?

No one is saying tourists should never go back, they're saying that now isn't the right time to go back.

Maybe people who are shielded, or live with someone who is, or who have young children at home @Alsohuman?

It's another bloody government omnishambles. Giving people the right to travel as far as they want but no plan to open the facilities to support that.

@Zomblie - are there any comments which say you won't be welcome when everything is open? I haven't seen any. We'd love you to visit - just not until we are open.

Of course they have those workers available. When were public toilets ever closed in May before? Who cleaned them in May last year?

I can't speak for all councils but I know ours has redeployed staff like that into other roles such as community support, delivering food parcels and medicines to those who are vulnerable/quarantined/shielding, covering job roles of staff who are quarantined/shielding, and so on.

Maybe people who are shielded, or live with someone who is, or who have young children at home

Every cleaner? Doubt it. That’s called straw clutching.

@Clymene - oh no, I'm not planning on going anywhere at all til it is all open, but on the blog I was saying about there were some nasty comments about how tourists won't be welcome. No time frames in the comments though. Hopefully it will all be ok by then and the local
community won't mind us being there, I need my Cornwall fix! If it isn't then I will have to cancel and go next year.

Thank you for your comment, I hadn't considered that the meaning might be that we would be welcome when it's allowed and open, they just seemed to be a general grrrrrr.

But people who live by the sea haven’t had the last 9 weeks to enjoy it.

even if you had, so what? You chose and pay to live there, you get to enjoy it because you are local.

There are other places non-local can access closer from home.

Is it fair that only those in seaside towns or 30 miles away from the sea get to go but those in highrises in deprived areas can't?

Going to a beach isn't a right ffs. There are countries without seaside. Should the people from there then demand access to seaside countries no matter what because "It'S uNfAiR YoU hAve SeA"🙄

Is it fair that only those in seaside towns or 30 miles away from the sea get to go but those in highrises in deprived areas can't?

Lots of things in life aren't fair. You don't have a right to go to the beach just because you fancy it.

There are plenty of other places those people can visit within a smaller radius of their homes. Nature reserves, for example, or parks. I spent years not living anywhere near the sea - we'd go once a year, if that.

Now I'm fortunate enough to live within five minutes of the beach and I can go daily if I want to. But I also deal with the negative sides of that - very windy weather and lots of rain, for example, especially in the winter months.

I'm forever reading threads on here from people saying they would hate to live rurally. Since lockdown, living rurally has had all these advantages (close to the sea and lots of lovely open spaces), and people have their knickers in a twist about it.

Is it fair that the children who live in areas of social deprivation in my hometown and don’t have gardens are forced to stay at home and not go to the outdoor spaces because of selfish day trippers who can’t social distance.

The government’s advice is NOT “You must visit tourist destinations in your droves!”

We welcome visitors after the epidemic. Please do as you are supposed to to protect lives and STAY HOME WHEN YOU CAN.

Is it fair that only those in seaside towns or 30 miles away from the sea get to go but those in highrises in deprived areas can't?
Its neither fair nor unfair. It's a fact of life for a (hopefully) short while

Lots of things in life arent fair

Like people who live near the sea having to put up with day trippers and tourists maybe?

I'm forever reading threads on here from people saying they would hate to live rurally. Since lockdown, living rurally has had all these advantages (close to the sea and lots of lovely open spaces), and people have their knickers in a twist about it it certainly seems that way at the moment.

A Gov policy that apparently relies on 'common sense' to work is a negligent Gov policy.

Negligent policy isn't surprising with this Gov but it is surprising to me to see so many posters castigating the public for going to seasides/beauty spots in beautiful weather, in accordance with the advice given by Johnson, instead of castigating Johnson for his failure to apply 'common sense' to his announcement

Like people who live near the sea having to put up with day trippers and tourists maybe?

I'm not one of those who have been complaining about it. Lots came to our local beaches this weekend but they didn't shit in rock pools or leave all their rubbish behind!

Nothing wrong with people visiting beaches, parks or other areas of natural beauty but they need to treat those places with respect. Holiday destinations like the lakes or the beaches aren't just a massive theme park - they're people's homes. I'm sure they wouldn't like it if people came and pissed in their back garden.