Boris declares war on fat

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Boris has said his being overweight contributed to his problems with Covid-19.
Stories this morning suggest he will wage war on fat...

What type of help do you think might be suggested?

Have you decided to lose weight due to Covid-19 worries?

YABU - no I will not lose weight due to Covid worries
YANBU - I will lose weight due to Covid worries

Johnson promoting weight loss makes me want to do the exact opposite, and I'm about go shopping, so extra doughnuts for the Lakie household today

Same here. Shame I did the weekly shop yesterday, if I was going today it would be cream cakes all the way.

Are these posts satire? You're taking the piss out of how stubborn people can be what people they don't like are making sense?

If not, then they're up there with the stupidest things ever written on the forum.

@Alsohuman you implied that you’d take steps to gain weight to spite the government.

And yes, obesity is a drain on the NHS. It doesn’t matter if “some obese people” don’t seem to be unwell right now. Britain’s obesity problem needs to be tackled and not just covid related. This isn’t just about you.

@Sandybval That's good advice, thank you!

There is one fact that is worth remembering:

Although your metabolism can be slowed by genetics, illnesses, medication, age and so forth...

Your body cannot make fat out of thin air.

In order to lay down fat it has to be fed more calories than it needs.

Medication will not cause weight gain on it's own. The weight has to come from somewhere, and unless the tablets are 3,000 calories apiece, it's not your medication.

I've been there; I put on weight when I was on the pill. The hormonal changes I underwent on the pill caused me to eat more high-calorie foods.

Your medication may slow your metabolism so that you're burning very little energy, but it is not altering the laws of physics. Nothing in the world can make you gain weight other than an excess of unused energy (calories).

If you are gaining weight, it is because you are taking in more calories than you are burning. It is physically impossible for your body to create fat out of nothing.

You can increase the amount you burn, or you can decrease the amount you take in.

If you burn much fewer calories than someone else, whether through genetics, medication, or other, then that's unfair, but that's how it is. Find out how your body burns energy and adapt to your own unique circumstances.

OK

So you'd rather risk death, just for the sake of sticking two fingers up to Boris????

Would you have lost weight if Lord Corbyn had suggested it?

You might want to re- read the comment you are trying to be snide about; the poster makes it quite clear she does intend to lose weight, but that it is neither Johnson nor coronavirus which are motivating her.

Thank you @Alsohuman! I'll think of you when I'm eating my doughnuts.

Johnson promoting weight loss makes me want to do the exact opposite, and I'm about go shopping, so extra doughnuts for the Lakie household today.

No one with an actual brain is that stupid are they?

Yes, I am at least 2 stone overweight. (OK, more than that, but I dont want to admit it).
Not helped by me spending lockdown making cakes, etc.
So, I have just about stopped making cakes, and am working on trying to improve elsewhere.
My exercise class was suspended, and it has been hard to motivate myself to exercise, so this has not helped.

@TinRoofRusty - Could not agree more.

A calorie is a calorie - be it from cucumber or a burger. The most popular weight loss scam, sorry I mean club literally uses the word SYN. One should not feel the need to treat themselves, creates all sorts of negative thoughts.

Quite simply, one should eat a balanced diet, include lots of water, vegetables and make sure it is within your daily BMR + exercise.

There is no need to be counting every calorie, but understand that if you have burger and chips for lunch, have a lighter meal.

Oh, and there is no scientific evidence showing that people have different metabolic rates.

Eat healthily
Exercise
Protect the NHS

Lemony - you win . You might want to copyright that!

Oh, and there is no scientific evidence showing that people have different metabolic rates

I think you’ll find your wrong. And that metabolism slows with age.

www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/the-truth-about-metabolism

@LemonyCupcake very well said. I can't believe some of the replies on here from people who want to 'stick two fingers' to Boris. Obesity costs the NHS a fortune. Instead of drawing a rainbow in your window, change your lifestyle in order to support the NHS.

Tbh Boris wanting me to lose weight kind of makes me want to put some more on.

That doesn’t mean every overweight person is going to put pressure on the NHS which is what you originally implied. I’m the living proof of that.

For now. It's physically impossible for obese person to not eventually end up with associated health issues. Up until 6 months ago I too was quite blasé about it because "I am healthy and a fit fatso". No. No I am not, I was not, and I will never be. What I was was in denial.

@Kazzyhoward

People, especially my OH would say the same about me. I NEVER eat excessively in public or with family but I'm a compulsive eater in private

I can absolutely see why that’s an explanation for some people and you’re right in that I have no idea what goes on behind closed doors.

I’m sorry that you feel there’s no support, especially if it’s a as problematic as you say, in that many people will be in a similar position.

I suppose what I still can’t get my head round however, is that whilst some binge in private, it would still be difficult to put away the amount of calories it would take to become so obese. Especially if you’re eating healthy as well.

In theory, I should be a lot heavier than I am. I don’t do it in private, probably because I’ve never been shamed as I’m slim. It’s almost a shock to people when they see what I put away, because I don’t have any weight issues it’s deemed perfect fine.

I can absolutely see how being overweight makes people less likely to eat that crap in public for fear of being mocked etc... that’s where I’m lucky.

It gives me even more opportunities to eat crap, but I’m still not the size people would expect.

Hope that makes sense.

Not had chance to read the full thread.

But I worked for the FREE community weight management service in my Area up until April this year. It was funded by public health that sat within the county council. Council in millions of debt so had to recoup money somewhere. So they axed the service. Be interesting in my area what help they actually offer.

Isn't there a huge irony to that godawful blancmange PM of ours asking us to lose weight when he's used up goodness knows how many thousands of pounds of NHS time and resources when he contracted Covd and had to be hospitalised - which statistically he was more susceptible to because he was so very overweight.

I am healthy and fit because it's important to me to set a positive example for my DC. I wouldn't change any of my habits because Boris wanted to tick some fucking imaginary boxes and garner a few positive headlines. Our country has had so many people die from Covid because of our Governments piss-poor handling and management of the situation. To think otherwise is ridiculous and hints at apportioning blame elsewhere - something the PM and his mates are a little too fond of.

I do think I’m lucky that I have a faster metabolism but that makes it difficult for those that don’t. I feel sorry for them.

@Alsohuman _ Apologies, I was not that clear. There are of course variations in metabolic rates between people, and yes age and other factors like muscle mass etc do dictate someone metabolic rate (BMR)

The majority of the population exists in a range of 200-300kcal from each other and do not possess hugely different metabolic rates.

So there is no such thing as a 'fast' metabolism or slow one, simply put some people can get away with having increased calorific intake with someone of a similar size to hit their BMR.

Apologies, if I was mis leading.

I completely failed to lose my menopause weight gain over the last 10 years so I had private bariatric surgery a couple of years ago and lost a ton of weight (not literally a ton) but I had to pay for that myself as no help was available for me on the NHS other than the usual mantra eat less and move more.
How much money is he going to spend ensuring we all do just that?

The people that are going to go out and eat a cream cake because Borris said to manage your weight, why not go all out and smoke a pack of 20!

Darwin would be so proud!

DH and I were on the 5:2 before lockdown, had a couple of weeks off when things were seriously stressful, but have been back on it for a few weeks now. We're also taking advantage of being stuck at home with lots of running (DH as I can't since a leg injury and big old op) and bike rides out into the countryside. I haven't dome so much cardio in years!

Can't say either of us are losing weight obviously - but hoping that we're doing ourselves good and staving off any weight gain that may have otherwise have happened.

@hunnybears just out of interest, do you mind saying roughly how old you are? It's interesting because I was similar to you when younger. Stick thin teen and twenties, could eat (and drink!) whatever the heck I wanted and never went above a size 10. Exercise was intermittent and I lived a party lifestyle into my early 30s. Never any issues with staying very slim.
I'm not sure if it was simply ageing or having DC in my mid 30s but when I hit 40 BOOM it all changed and I've had to really fight hard to keep my weight in check.

Just wondered if you're older and still have the metabolism of a youngster. Very jealous if you do