To think this is actually really entitled parenting?

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Seen this post from several people this morning outraged at the walking couple

www.facebook.com/672995864/posts/10158029908925865/?d=n

Now I am in no way condoning the disgusting language of the man in question. But the dad showed such an entitled attitude. He didn't tell his DD to slow down even when she was on the heels of the couple. She could have hurt them if they'd been elderley or disabled, and you can't tell from behind. He didn't practice social distancing - even if the couple had moved they'd have been way less than 2m apart from them, unless they threw themselves into a bush. And when his DD fell off the bike, rather than comfort her he spent the time arguing with and blaming the couple while she cried on the floor.

I've taken my kids to paths like this during lockdown and have said if someone is walking ahead we have to walk behind them with the bikes until we can pass them safely or the paths get wider. This is while teaching them to cycle, and just because they have momentum it doesn't mean they shouldn't stop - surely that's part of learning to cycle, knowing when to judge the safety of themselves and others?

I suppose i also hate this trend of social media vigilantism whereby people want to share faces of those who've slighted them, usually with a huge amount of bias and very little context. And the general public seem to lap it up! I am hard of hearing and I hate cyclists coming up behind me when I walk as unless they bellow "excuse me" I simply will not hear them. I wouldn't be pleased if a child bashed into me and then I got yelled at by the parent for not having good hearing and eyes in the back of my head.

I've just seen that they've reported it to the police?

Imagine training to be a police officer, thinking and hoping you'll make a difference in the world and be a cornerstone of safety and protection for your beloved community. To find that you're looking into a complaint of a couple being uncles into and not being best pleased about it

There is a section of our school run just like this, I actively ignore cyclists behind us as there is no room for them to pass, we would have to jump into the bushes.

When I read this on fb this morning I did think that the comments would be very different on here!
I couldn’t believe the support for the dad-I’d have been mortified if that was my child and would have apologised profusely.
Hopefully it wouldn’t get to that stage though because I would have stopped filming and sprinted or yelled to my child to stop!

Eurgh seeing that some of my Facebook friends have done reactions as though the people were evil. If that was my son I'd have put my video camera away and ran and stopped him? This video shows just how entitled parents are.

I don't think anyone is blaming the child. Dad should have told her to stop.

But I would be teaching my child that if people don't move when you say excuse me then it doesn't mean we just barge on through. A 6 year old should be able to retain that information, if they are taught it.

Megaton, I was joking! I just typed that thinking that a dirty look was funny, unlike just crashing into someone or allowing the child to do so!

In real life I always slow right down, say excuse me (I ring my bell well in advance and shout ‚excuse me, on your right or similar‘) and smile. Once they go to the side I say thanks.

Sometimes if it’s clear they are being arses they get a dirty look. Examples of this are People who let their dog run loose in a crowded area, let it get under bike wheels etc and don’t call it back or apologise. Or people who have their dog on lead Extended right across the path.

in my experience a lot people actually apologise so its obvious they just haven’t paid attention.

I have to admit I have never thought of someone being deaf as I ring my bell pretty loudly and shout repeatedly usually.

Totally of the fathers creation. The couple didn't behave well at all but awful parenting on the dads part.

He should have apologised for his rude kid.

He told her to keep going. Let's not start bashing the kid. She wasn't rude or precious princess or whatever. She's a 6 yo with poor control of her bike, who seems to be unsure and slowing down/wobbling and the dad tells her to keep going. It's not her fault.

Are you really saying that if someone is moving slowly on a path, they can just continue to do so and not move over to let people past who are moving faster than they are, whether faster walking, cycling or running? And that if you are with someone you don't have to go single file to let people by?

In times where social distancing is crucial - yes, wait. Have the patience. Things aren't the norm right now.

It’s folk like the Facebook dad who give cyclists a bad name tbh

Nobody covers themselves in glory on that video - everyone invovled behaves badly, including the little girl tbh (did her parents teach her that people walking have to jump out of her way? My kids would have steered into the bushes rather than risk going into the back of a stranger if they were, for some strange reason, in that situation and unable to control their bike to brake - bowling into unknown adults is unthinkable for most 6 year olds...)

People look ahead not backward when they are walking (same with skiing). Several times I've had cyclist come from behind and go straight past me without me being aware they were coming at all until they flew past. It's really up to the people behind to not crash into others in front, in this case the Dad.

Poor child. How confusing and frightening for her.

Yes her dad is a right entitled twat I have invisible disabilities and would have hated this to happen to me. Especially at a time when we should be distancing. You cannot justify barging through people just by saying excuse me. Like gentry mowing down peasants!! Who does he think he is?!

It is the same scenario as driving where the one behind is at fault, and cyclists must give way to pedestrians, as I hope the police will explain to them.

However, this also sounds like a typical joined at the hip couple who won't go single file you might think this of me if you saw me holding my DH's arm, but even if it was one person, there is no way they could have passed and maintained a 2m gap, so the cycling girl's dad is at fault in every way.

I don't excuse the man becoming abusive and kicking the bike, but the vigilance that some covid-vulnerable people often feel compared to those that feel invincible, will inevitably lead to heightened responses if their space is invaded. It is provokingly disrespectful.

Sadly it is often the same with using a walking stick etc in pre-covid times - lots of people still just barge past with no regard, and it makes going outside stressful. Am really fed up with this kind of thing.

@AllIMissNowIsTheSea would they do that if you were right behind them and told them to keep going?

I have to admit I have never thought of someone being deaf as I ring my bell pretty loudly and shout repeatedly usually.

But you expect people walking (who have priority) to move out of your way?

Why on earth should they? Find somewhere less narrow to cycle. Like a road.

Is the dad on a bike too or walking? Is he filming on his mobile or a GoPro type camera on his helmet, maybe.

PrincessConsueIaBananaHammock that's a trick question - they wouldn't be the children they are if I was the sort of parent who would tell them to keep going. They'd fall off in shock thinking I'd been abducted by aliens and replaced with something that sounded like me but clearly wasn't... I think their conditioning not to barge into people and push and shove adults out of their way would oevrride a one off errant command which didn't compute...

I have to admit I have never thought of someone being deaf as I ring my bell pretty loudly and shout repeatedly usually

Whether they are deaf or not or whether they heard or saw you or not is irrelevant. If they don't move you don't just ride into people.

Parenting reflects the views of the parent. So I'd like to say entitled people. Because it's a part of their very own personality towards society.

I agree the father is bang out of order. You can't expect to just barge past people in any circumstances but you couldn't tell from the back if the couple were elderly. They were walking quite slowly so I thought they might have been. The couples' reaction wasn't acceptable either. They could have checked the little girl was alright. I suspect they're sick fed up of entitled cyclists.
My dad is in his late 70s and is getting fed up with families on bike rides expecting him to jump out the way. There was none of it before lockdown. I worry he'll get confronted by an arsey father like the one who took the video.

@LudaMusser There wasn't enough room to adhere to social distancing - even if they had gone single file!

Yes.....if two people were walking and two others walked up behind them, then given the current circumstances, they would've just had to wait for an appropriate place to pass. Unfortunately this is the new reality we find ourselves in.

Ugh. Totally the father's fault. What an entitled idiot. We've been out cycling local paths with 6 year old ds. He's new to cycling too. But we have taught him this thing called consideration for other people. He knows to slow down, give way and give space or ring his bell and use his please and thank you.
The couple reacted exactly as I would have done if a kid had barged into us, tho I wouldn't have kicked the bike.
I'd have been cross that the wee lass wasnt comforted too.
Dreadful parenting, I hope someone has told him he's a twat.

The path isn't suitable for shared use between cyclists and walkers. Anyone who does cycle on it, or allow their children to, needs to be hyper aware of not causing a menace.

Unfortunately the walking man was an absolute thug and utterly lost the moral high ground as soon as he opened his mouth. It was his and his partner's until the moment he turned around and revealed himself to be a dick head though.

Hence all parties involved were utter idiots. Obviously the child is 6 therefore her faults are entirely and completely the adult in charge of her's faults - at 6 she is what her parents have made her and not responsible - in fact perhaps she had better instincts but was afraid not to do what her father demanded despite her better judgement.

YANBU, those parents are dicks.

Did anyone else notice that the child doesn't audibly cry for a good 10-15 seconds after falling off the bike? Mum was probably off camera encouraging her to scream.

Reckon the dad set that up deliberately, because he encouraged his child to continue riding and even when it was evident that she was about to crash into the couple, rather than drop his phone down to his side as you would expect and run ahead to grab his daughters bike, he calmly continued to film as she cannoned into them which must have been a shock.