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To think this is actually really entitled parenting?

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GlummyMcGlummerson · 12/05/2020 14:38

Seen this post from several people this morning outraged at the walking couple

www.facebook.com/672995864/posts/10158029908925865/?d=n

Now I am in no way condoning the disgusting language of the man in question. But the dad showed such an entitled attitude. He didn't tell his DD to slow down even when she was on the heels of the couple. She could have hurt them if they'd been elderley or disabled, and you can't tell from behind. He didn't practice social distancing - even if the couple had moved they'd have been way less than 2m apart from them, unless they threw themselves into a bush. And when his DD fell off the bike, rather than comfort her he spent the time arguing with and blaming the couple while she cried on the floor.

I've taken my kids to paths like this during lockdown and have said if someone is walking ahead we have to walk behind them with the bikes until we can pass them safely or the paths get wider. This is while teaching them to cycle, and just because they have momentum it doesn't mean they shouldn't stop - surely that's part of learning to cycle, knowing when to judge the safety of themselves and others?

I suppose i also hate this trend of social media vigilantism whereby people want to share faces of those who've slighted them, usually with a huge amount of bias and very little context. And the general public seem to lap it up! I am hard of hearing and I hate cyclists coming up behind me when I walk as unless they bellow "excuse me" I simply will not hear them. I wouldn't be pleased if a child bashed into me and then I got yelled at by the parent for not having good hearing and eyes in the back of my head.

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lotusbell · 12/05/2020 15:36

Not that I am justifying the man's behaviour and I know it must be upsetting for the girl, left alone to cry while daddy nearly gets his faces smashed in!

EveryLifeHasASoundtrack · 12/05/2020 15:37

Such a strange video.

The couple didn’t appear to hear someone shouting excuse me. Surely if you hear someone shouting excuse me, you naturally turn and look.

Where did the man with the child expect the couple to move to?

Why was the child allowed to just keep going? Why did the man she was with not tell her to stop or physically stop?

Why did the man keep filming when it was clear the child was going to hit the people? He just let her ride into them.

The bad language was wrong, especially in front of a child.

To kick a child’s bike in anger is awful.

The man with the child didn’t seem to check if the child was ok.

Attention seeking I reckon, perfect Facebook attention seeking footage. Hope it was worth it.

isabellerossignol · 12/05/2020 15:37

but the argument could've been so easily avoided if they'd not ignored the kid.

Could have been avoided even more easily if the dad had told the wee girl to stop. Even a novice cyclist knows how to put their feet on the ground.

Sparklingbrook · 12/05/2020 15:37

The Daily Mail have to get hold of this. The comments will be gold.

Incontinencesucks · 12/05/2020 15:37

There was a fork up ahead they could have overtaken had the dad hung back, the woman gestures to it.

Dad 100% at fault.
Other man a complete git for kicking the bike.
Dad was a disgrace, too busy filming to pay attention and help his panicking child. What a knobber!
The child could have badly been hurt, as could the dog. It probably did hurt the couple to be rode into, if someone rode into my mum's back like that she would be laid up for days and she's hard of hearing too!

Plus given the child is not confident she should not be riding there, you can clearly see the form and bends ahead. Other cyclists, disabled, elderly or babies/small dc could be around those.

I can understand sympathy for the child but if that dad was on my facebook, it would tell me everything about his attitude and parenting.

maddy68 · 12/05/2020 15:37

I agree. The path is too narrow for cyclists and walkers

clockworklime · 12/05/2020 15:38

Cyclists with go pros on their helmets are usually of a type.

Thurmanmurman · 12/05/2020 15:38

The Dad should have told the child to stop but the other man was an utter twat too. Both twats, I feel sorry for the little girl though.

NiteFlights · 12/05/2020 15:38

WTF is wrong with the dad that instead of ensuring his child’s safety, he chooses to film her riding into pedestrians? And then argues with them instead of apologising and comforting his child and checking nobody’s hurt?

Obviously the man shouldn’t have kicked the bike, but I’d be bloody annoyed if some idiot allowed his child to cycle into me because - well, why? Because children have right of way? Because bikes have right of way? Because the dad thinks his child doesn’t have to learn how to cycle safely and with good manners?

user1495884620 · 12/05/2020 15:39

Dreadful parenting by the Dad, should have told her to stop and wait, but, regarding the videoing, from the angle, I would guess he had a go-pro on his helmet to film the cycle ride and has just cut the incident for facebook purposes.

Alymcnabs · 12/05/2020 15:39

I hope the Daily Fail picks this up and somebody posts the link on FB 😁

Devlesko · 12/05/2020 15:40

And the worst parent of the year award goes to "Entitled Dad". Grin
I hope someone tells him he's on here.
Maybe his wife is on here, if so.
LTB, love. Grin

copycopypaste · 12/05/2020 15:41

I agree with the op. A friend of mine out this up defending the cyclists. I couldn't figure out why.

I think the cyclists were at fault here. What makes them think that they trump the walkers. Coming from behind I see it as their responsibility to slow down and pass when it's safe. Even if she did say excuse me, exactly where were the walkers supposed to go. I'd have been telling the little girl to slow down and stop if necessary, not to go barrelling through. The Walker was a bit of a knob kicking the bike, but equally the other dad was more interested in having a go than seeing to his child.

xsquared · 12/05/2020 15:42

I don't think any of them come out looking good from this. I hope the child and dog are okay though. She is 6 so I'd cut her some slack.

The couple didn't do anything wrong by not moving out of the way, but say someone, whether cycling, walking or running, was approaching them face on from the other direction, do people really not try to walk in single file to let people through? There have been times when I've walked or ran on my own, on pavements or footpaths where groups of 2 or more people are walking abreast and seemingly determined not being the one to move out the way.

Heartlake · 12/05/2020 15:42

"Daisy, [puts phone in pocket and catches up with daughter], hang on a minute, they haven't heard us. Careful of those people... Daisy... stop now [grabs back of daughter's coat just in time]!!".

Just me then???!

Chocolate1984 · 12/05/2020 15:42

The dad was awful, no one should be barging through anyone and he should have called his kid back. How does he even know they heard them shouting excuse me? What is he teaching his kid. Even if the couple had stood to the side it would have been impossible for the kid to keep the 2m distance. He should have apologised for his rude kid.

Yellowbutterfly1 · 12/05/2020 15:43

I hope this does end up in the Daily Fail to show up the very entitled parents.

The word “please” after “excuse me” would not have gone amiss too.

lotusbell · 12/05/2020 15:43

The space to the right of the woman at the point the child crashes is perfectly adequate to move into for a brief moment.

RonSwansonIsBuff · 12/05/2020 15:43

Maybe his wife is on here, if so. LTB, love

It looks like it was the wife that posted it on FB. I hope she's on here too as it appears people won't tell you the truth in Facebook comments Grin

BolloxtoGender · 12/05/2020 15:44

100% Dad 's the twat. But playing the victim by using her daughter and filming to show that he's the victim in this . Instead of comforting her, he was filming and arguing to prove a point. He's got little awareness that people can see through this sort of sh*t.

GrimmsFairytales · 12/05/2020 15:44

but say someone, whether cycling, walking or running, was approaching them face on from the other direction, do people really not try to walk in single file to let people through?

I think it's very different if you can see someone approaching towards you. You have time to assess their speed and where you could move to. If someone is coming up behind you, you don't know how fast they're going, whether they're a bike, runner etc, and they could be on your heels before you're aware of them.

lotusbell · 12/05/2020 15:45

Not sure what mum expects the police to do in this case, either.

VerticalHorizon · 12/05/2020 15:45

The couple could be deaf.
The people at the back are at an advantage... they can see the situation. Folks don't have eyes in the backs of their heads.

Give it a few more years, and this parent will be teaching her that traffic lights are optional for cyclists.

Oldraver · 12/05/2020 15:45

I cant believe al the arse licky comments and not one person has pulled the guy up for arguing while his DD is distressed

PrincessConsueIaBananaHammock · 12/05/2020 15:45

DD learned to ride her bike without stabilisers last month. She mostly rides in big open plan spaces/fields. Even so , with a lot of space and good control, I warn her if there seems to be something/someone in her path. Nothing OTT just "be careful there are people ahead! "

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