To think this is actually really entitled parenting?

[GlummyMcGlummerson]

Seen this post from several people this morning outraged at the walking couple

www.facebook.com/672995864/posts/10158029908925865/?d=n

Now I am in no way condoning the disgusting language of the man in question. But the dad showed such an entitled attitude. He didn't tell his DD to slow down even when she was on the heels of the couple. She could have hurt them if they'd been elderley or disabled, and you can't tell from behind. He didn't practice social distancing - even if the couple had moved they'd have been way less than 2m apart from them, unless they threw themselves into a bush. And when his DD fell off the bike, rather than comfort her he spent the time arguing with and blaming the couple while she cried on the floor.

I've taken my kids to paths like this during lockdown and have said if someone is walking ahead we have to walk behind them with the bikes until we can pass them safely or the paths get wider. This is while teaching them to cycle, and just because they have momentum it doesn't mean they shouldn't stop - surely that's part of learning to cycle, knowing when to judge the safety of themselves and others?

I suppose i also hate this trend of social media vigilantism whereby people want to share faces of those who've slighted them, usually with a huge amount of bias and very little context. And the general public seem to lap it up! I am hard of hearing and I hate cyclists coming up behind me when I walk as unless they bellow "excuse me" I simply will not hear them. I wouldn't be pleased if a child bashed into me and then I got yelled at by the parent for not having good hearing and eyes in the back of my head.

@lotusbell

It's pretty much the way of the countryside and it's just polite to do so. So no, I would not expect them to levitate, I would expect them to stand aside, as far back as they could, in order to let someone say pass.

Well I live in the countryside myself and 'the countryside way' is for everyone to be polite and acknowledge the situation for what it is and in normal circumstances that's what people do. However, on a tiny path like this, given the current 2m social distancing guidelines, it is common sense for everyone - even parents of children learning to ride a bike - to perhaps wise up a little, at least for the time being. I shouldn't think this couple even dreamed that a responsible parent would allow what happened to have occurred.

If they're hard of hearing, which I suspect they aren't, hence my original comment, then maybe they're not walking in the best place for them given that the path has been recognised as multiuse.

So it seems you think the path is multiuse, but maybe deaf or hard of hearing people (like me) shouldn't use it. Wow. Should we only be allowed on certain approved paths?

I think everyone in this video needs to relax a bit. Like it or not, public spaces must be shared with other members of the public.

The little girl shouldn't have cycled into them, the couple shouldn't have shouted and sworn at a 6 year old, and the girl's parent's should have intervened to stop her from hitting them in the first place.

This could have been so different - little girl rings bell and shouts excuse me, parents call out to her that she needs to slow down/stop, she accidentally catches the couple with her bike, apologises, the couple forgive her, everyone moves on with their day. Didn't need to be a big deal.

Maybe they are all a bit tense from the lock down?

The little girl shouldn't have cycled into them, the couple shouldn't have shouted and sworn at a 6 year old,
They didnt shout and swear at the child they swore at the parent because he was having a go at them.

Interestingly on The Sun comments of their article there is someone saying they are his parents and they are deaf

Can you imagine the backlash if it comes out that this is true. Surely they would be able to do something in relation to the video? I bet however that even if they do turn out to be deaf the twat of a father still doesn't appologise.

And maybe the dad is just an entitled cock that thinks the world should revolve round him and his issue.

megatron

I’m sure some will be happy for you to walk all sorts of paths providing you learn to levitate and use wing mirrors.

I still think that the onus is on those behind to make sure their way forward is clear.

But I’m interested in learning to fly so that I can accommodate the inconsiderate, impatient and entitled.

If anyone knows how I can learn this (youtube?) then give us the nod.

And before someone tells me to use my broomstick 🧹 I haven’t got one.

Just a mop and a dyson stick thing.

I’m sure some will be happy for you to walk all sorts of paths providing you learn to levitate and use wing mirrors.

@AwrightDoreenTakeAFuckinDayOff I'm perfecting my skills as I speak.

Pedestrians are perfectly entitled to walk on country lanes and other roads which have no pavement however they have a duty to take reasonable care for their own safety.

And if they (or a cyclist) get hit by a car, it is always the car driver's fault.

I will meet you by the river @Megatron

We can confuse the ducks and have a picnic 10ft up (observing social distancing all round of course)

But disabled people are never rude or shouty ! ;—)

Interestingly on The Sun comments of their article there is someone saying they are his parents and they are deaf

I wonder if it's why the mum removed the video from FB.

Grimms

The suns comments were this morning , the FB was taking down yesterday

The suns comments were this morning , the FB was taking down yesterday

If it was true the walking family members could have been in touch yesterday, causing the mum to take down the video. The walking family members might not have seen the FB video until it started being shared in the news.

@AwrightDoreenTakeAFuckinDayOff

@Megatron, if that's how you wish to interpret my comment, crack on.

It can't really be interpreted any other way @lotusbell.

If they're hard of hearing, which I suspect they aren't, hence my original comment, then maybe they're not walking in the best place for them given that the path has been recognised as multiuse.

I'm sure you're embarrassed, but at least acknowledge what you said is unacceptable and perhaps a little disablist. I very much doubt you will though.

Even if the path is multi use, it surely just means that people may cycle on it?

Not that they can try to squeeze through a non existent gap, or ride into the back of someone or even that that a walker must move out of the way?

I thought the video was hilarious! The wet wipe “father” saying “excuse me” ... the girl ploughing into the couple ... the father thinking he and the kid had done thing wrong ... yet when I looked on the comments I was shocked to see everyone agreeing with the father!!?? Madness. The couple did nothing wrong. The kid needs to be taught patience and manners. Totally the father’s fault.

Then I come in here and was in stitches ... the poster who suggested the couple could be dead ... the poster who envisioned a couple of zombies out in a stroll ... comedy gold.

I feel sorry for the girl. Must be awful just learning to ride a bike and the idiot who is supposed to be looking after her sets her up for a massive fail.

Megatron, wind your neck in. I'm not embarrassed and no, I won't be apologising.
If I were hard of hearing and so was my partner, I would more than likely avoid places like that for walking. I would choose somewhere with wide paths and plenty of space, where the chance of someone needing to get ahead of me was less. If you don't want to, then fine, be prepared for not hearing what's around you and falling foul of people possibly wanting to get ahead.
How was the dad supposed to know they were hard of hearing? Again, doesn't make it right and no, I am not suggesting they were a sandwich board advertising the fact they are hard of hearing, just in case you want to throw that at me too.
For all we know, the man and his daughter could've approached that path from a different entry point, perhaps the couple looked around moments before the video and thought they were further away. Maybe it was their first time walking in that area and they were unaware the paths were so narrow. Maybe that applies to the father. I don't know. I frankly don't care anymore.

*wear, not were

I agree. Though I got flamed for saying so on a friend's Facebook!

Squishy what is really worrying is the number of he-huns threatening violence and asking where the man lives

I would hope Nottinghamshire Police we're following these up

This does not look like an appropriate place to teach a young child to ride a bike.

When we removed my daughters stabilizers we went to a large park with wide paths and grass areas, this was even before lockdown.

The path god has spoken.

You and I must learn to fly @Megatron

You may be hard of hearing. I am what one might call a wide load.

We have no business on paths.

This is astonishing the way people are laying into the couple. I don't even think him 'kicking' the bike (it didn't look that hard, more in frustration at what had just happened and to move it out the way so they could continue) is that bad at all and I may have done similar in the circumstances - it hurts if a bike suddenly crashes into the back of your legs, then to add insult to injury (literally) the dad starts laying into him, instead of apologising. Absolutely it's polite to move to single file when you become aware someone behind you is moving more quickly but in this case there is very little room for a bike to pass anyway, and categorically you are not responsible for what is behind you. It is always the responsibility of the overtaking person to do so safely (and in this case for the dad to ensure the child does). Just because someone has said excuse me, which you may or may not have heard, the overtaking person needs to wait until there is room. As people have said, all kinds of reason why they may not have heard. I often walk along listening to music. If I am walking in a straight line along a footpath that is absolutely fine, it's not my responsibility to know who is behind me. Obviously as I do give a shit about other people I try and maintain awareness of what's going on around me, but it's never ok to just barge into or past someone because they didn't move out of your way the moment you appeared / rang your bell / said excuse me. People can be so impatient and selfish. And the dad just totally takes the biscuit - not only so entitled he feels they have to move out of his and his daughter's way in the first place despite there being so little room, but a) too busy on his phone to actually be a parent and avert the incident and b) then still too busy filming it all/ having a go to comfort his screaming child. Top parenting there.....

I feel very sorry for the couple. Minding their business walking their dog. Having a child crash into you on a bike and the dad have a go instead of a simple apology would be annoying enough. And just one of those things - whichever side you're on we all have these annoying interactions with other people we consider to be selfish from time to time. But then to find themselves plasted all over social media / tabloids and some ignorant witch hunt (and who knows, maybe a call from Plod, even though there is clearly nothing for police to investigate but wouldn't be first time...) - that would be pretty distressing I imagine.

We have no business on paths.

Well apparently not!