To think this is actually really entitled parenting?

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Seen this post from several people this morning outraged at the walking couple

www.facebook.com/672995864/posts/10158029908925865/?d=n

Now I am in no way condoning the disgusting language of the man in question. But the dad showed such an entitled attitude. He didn't tell his DD to slow down even when she was on the heels of the couple. She could have hurt them if they'd been elderley or disabled, and you can't tell from behind. He didn't practice social distancing - even if the couple had moved they'd have been way less than 2m apart from them, unless they threw themselves into a bush. And when his DD fell off the bike, rather than comfort her he spent the time arguing with and blaming the couple while she cried on the floor.

I've taken my kids to paths like this during lockdown and have said if someone is walking ahead we have to walk behind them with the bikes until we can pass them safely or the paths get wider. This is while teaching them to cycle, and just because they have momentum it doesn't mean they shouldn't stop - surely that's part of learning to cycle, knowing when to judge the safety of themselves and others?

I suppose i also hate this trend of social media vigilantism whereby people want to share faces of those who've slighted them, usually with a huge amount of bias and very little context. And the general public seem to lap it up! I am hard of hearing and I hate cyclists coming up behind me when I walk as unless they bellow "excuse me" I simply will not hear them. I wouldn't be pleased if a child bashed into me and then I got yelled at by the parent for not having good hearing and eyes in the back of my head.

Her dad was entirely in the wrong. Didn't he teach her to stop and get off when approaching pedestrians?

The dad is a dick.

He wasn't worried enough to stop filming and help his daughter who was screaming "daddy" for help. Her crying was quite upsetting bless her. You'd think a dad who was actually protective would have helped her as a priority instead of filming a row to share on his Facebook.

Sorry but I'm giggling away at the "couple could have been dead" comment from the start of the thread and then starting off again at the poster who said she was imaging 2 zombies 😂😂

Yes I do agree I never share anything like that because you just never know the other side of the story. Posts that urge people to share are usually all the same sort of crap. I don't blame the little girl she must have been panicking but why didn't the dad run over and grab the bike to stop her, that's what I'd have done well before she'd got close enough to hit them, even before corona!! I think he could see what was coming and was hoping to get his five minutes of fame on Facebook.

Wherever the couple moved to it wouldn't of been 2 metres so riding a bike down a narrow path at this time is not ideal and if you are you need to be more aware than usual ( not little girls fault though , her parents should be helping make that judgement )
Someone could of got quite badly hurt incl his child but I don't see what the police will do as the couple were the ones hit , maybe for kicking the bike but again if no damage ??

CoronalsShit completely agree with your post, I could have written it.

Someone I know had this on eBay early yesterday. As someone had previously said, they were shocked at all the gushing posts from other mothers taking her and her husband's side and encouraging them to go to the police although unlike the other poster who said her dh persuaded her not to go against the grain and comment, I took the plunge and did just that . The girl I know who had posted this on fb was a bit shocked and immediately commented to me but I stuck to my guns. I think they were being entitled and precious. The father was a rude twat.

Am heartened to see every comment in the Mail saying the father is in the wrong. This has really upset me, my husband is very hard of hearing and I'm not much better. We could so easily be this couple being rammed by an entitled child whose parents are failing to teach her polite behaviour followed by abuse from an utter fuckwit then SM media shaming for going for a walk!!!

I love how despite the goady "pushed child off bike" bollocks headline the comments still took the walkers side.

It's funny, this video and the original FB post from the mum really made me think how parenting, and behaviour round children seems to be changing and not for the better.

Some members of our society seem to have gone from 'children should be seen and not heard' (awful) to 'children are King and every whim must be indulged' (also awful). One extreme to the other, such a shame that the shift didn't stop somewhere in the middle.

None of this was that little girls fault, but being brought up with an attitude like her parents appear to have means that she will no doubt grow up thinking that nothing is ever her fault.

Perhaps the little girl didn't know how to stop her bike if she is very new to cycling. In which case, as her parent, I would not be filming her riding, I would be running alongside her to make sure I could help her stop if she needed to, which she did in this situation.

I think they heard and chose not to move
The woman indicates a fork up ahead and intimates that they were letting them pass there. The dad says "how am I supposed to know that it" orsomething like that.
Either way he should have stopped, the path was way too narrow there for them to pass even single file.

I came across a dad like this recently. We were walking on the pavement, wall one side. He was cycling in the road, kid on the pavement a meter behind dad behind dad.
Came up bells ringing telling us to move for his son.

So me and my equally aged son, had to walk in the road behind the father. It widened up a little bit further. Just wait.

The Dad is an adult cyclist. Of course they should get out of his way. Each and every time. Interrupt they walk Leap off the path and press themselves against the brambles to allow him to power through. Strava Law!

I think they heard and chose not to move

Even if this is the case, where do you think they were going to go? Levitate directly skywards? There is nowhere to go.

Even if they had heard and decided not to move out of sheer bloody mindedness, that still doesn't mean that dad shouldn't have stopped his child. If someone doesn't move out of my way on a run I don't just barge straight through them, I wait.

It baffles me that anyone can think that this dad putting his daughter in this position was the right course of action.

I'm coming to the conclusion that if a person films themselves and puts footage of themselves in an altercation of social media then the chances of them being a twat are high.

@SnuggyBuggy Absolutely this X 100.

100% agree too especially as this was setup. Dad forces another walker into weeds and nettles without a thank you and tells his daughter to ride into people. How his wife didnt rake him over coals i don't know.

No wait i do. He is obviously an arrogant from his actions and birds of a feather flock together

It needed more than a wishy washy excuse me. He should have told his DD to stop and wait.

Pedestrians are perfectly entitled to walk on country lanes and other roads which have no pavement however they have a duty to take reasonable care for their own safety. The same goes for walkers on a multi use trail.

Yes. So they walk facing the oncoming traffic, not look behind them. How do you suggest they do this on your "multi use trail" (NB, not "cycle trail"). The onus is always on the person coming up from behind.

I simply can't understand why anyone would think the girl shouldn't have stopped/been stopped by her father and that barging through was the right course of action. Barging through people whilst riding a bike is never the right course of action and is indefensible! In this case the fault lies with the father as the girl was 6 but no fault lies with the walkers who had nowhere to go.

I’ve seen so many quite little ones wobbling past our house in the past several weeks, with clearly very little control and parents/caters a long way behind them (or a few in front, not watching 😳)
Bikes on pavements aren’t great at the best of times but right now, if they’re not in firm control, please wheel them to the park.

This has reminded me of the Cyclist ordered to pay damages to the pedestrian who wandered into the road in front of him... www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2019/06/18/cyclist-ordered-pay-compensation-woman-stepped-front-looking-phone-9996411/amp/

Older people are more likely to be seriously injured in relatively minor accidents. A kid riding their bike into them could have led to broken bones if they had osteoporosis for example. And even if they had ignored the kid, doesn't mean she can ride into them.

Dad was an idiot, and the whole situation was of his own making.

reminded me of this case as well insurance sued 4vyear old who knocked over a old lady who ended up in hospital for 3vmonths and died. This was USA and it was for the hospital fees

@bruffin, as I have said numerous times, I think the father is in the wrong. If you are trying to move past and people don't acknowledge your request or move out of your way, of course you make sure you stop as soon as you realise, you don't carry on barging through. But if the couple did intend to stop and move a bit further up, must've they should've made that clear!
The path is too narrow for anyone to pass safely at 2m, maybe the couple and the cyclists should be choosing other places to exercise. If the couple are hard of hearing, again, not the best place for them to be walking.

@Megatron

Even if this is the case, where do you think they were going to go? Levitate directly skywards? There is nowhere to go.

Again, I'll reiterate, I agree the father should've stopped his child.
The point I was trying to make, independent of this, is that yes, they did have somewhere to go and the idea that they shouldn't have to move aside and stand in some bushes for a moment, is ridiculous. Even without the 2m ruling, you would evidently have to stand aside at some point along this path in order to let other people pass, whether that is a cyclist, a jogger or another walk. It's pretty much the way of the countryside and it's just polite to do so. So no, I would not expect them to levitate, I would expect them to stand aside, as far back as they could, in order to let someone say pass. If they're hard of hearing, which I suspect they aren't, hence my original comment, then maybe they're not walking in the best place for them given that the path has been recognised as multiuse. That man and his child will not have been the first on that path to have to cross paths with others. Doesn't make it right, but there you go.
Over and out.

I don't think anyone comes out of it well. I would have also told my child to hold back and wouldn't have expected them to move in such a confined space.

I wear hearing aids and I've had people cross with me for trying to get my attention from behind, while I've seemingly ignored them. One person was returning a glove I'd dropped and was angry by the time I saw them. I think they'd been running. I said I was deaf and they sneered at me as though I was being sarcastic!

Interestingly on The Sun comments of their article there is someone saying they are his parents and they are deaf

"Sun you better take the video down of my deaf parents"

"He's my dad they both deaf little you know"