To be fucking furious?

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My dcs just came back from their dad's. He took them to someone else's house to visit. No handwasing after they left until they got to our house. I'm 'at risk'. My ds is prone to viral chest infections. This is the man who couldn't get his son a birthday present because he is allegedly immunocompromised. I'm livid. We have been following all the rules, not been out in the past six weeks apart from one trip to big tesco and walks around the block. Trying to write a sensible message to let him know he can't be trusted so I won't be sending them until the pandemic is over. He will minimise, twist and manipulate it to somehow be fault but he needs to know he's done something staggeringly stupid.

Are you drunk @Mikki2019?

Op, I would be raging!

I've started drafting an email, can I as for help? He's a manipulative man, so will twist and turn everything...
"The children tell me that you took them to a different household. This is against current guidance. I am in an at risk group as is DS. I am surprised that you would put his health at risk. If you can't be trusted to ensure their health is your priority, then I can't send them to see you until the risk is over"

@carolebaskinsheadband no court order, informal arrangement

‘lockdown is basically over now’

Head bangs.
Brick wall.

Lockdown is not over!! This is why Boris’s message needs to be clear and not open to personal interpretation.
“Be alert” is as clear as mud.
I would be livid with him OP!

You need to stay calm and talk reasonably to him - you can’t tell him he isn’t allowed to see his own children , they aren’t your possessions. You are an adult and so is he - just stay calm and talk to him , and try to maintain some perspective.

FFS, lockdown is NOT over. How dim can some people be.

Op, I agree, if he can’t observe the basic safety measures, he can’t be trusted to care for his at-risk ds. He’s a prat.

I would be fuming.

My DS doesn’t see much of my ex, but even though that’s the case eXH has reminded him that he needs to be Uber cautious and that it’s vital I not catch it as I’m at risk.

As they’re home now I would just tell him that given you don’t feel that he can ensure the DC not come into contact with the virus in light of them having gone to other people’s houses, it is best that the children stay with you until it is deemed safe for them to see him again.

How on Earth is someone saying lockdown is over - absolute nonsense ! Really dangerous to post rubbish like that. That makes me furious.
Op I would also be fuming in your scenario.

People have been acting like lockdown is over all bloody weekend. It is not. You are not being unreasonable OP. I would be livid.

@NicEv there's no possibility of talking. I deal with him purely in the written word. I'm not treating them as possessions. He has put two of this household at risk. He has done this knowing that we are vulnerable. He has shown himself to be untrustworthy.

I get the lockdown is over thing - it's not but many people are acting like it is.

Since the middle of last week our neighbours have had two parties, other neighbours had family over, I've received three emails just today from local companies who are restarting their businesses. The roads round here are also so much busier than three weeks ago.

I can’t believe anyone would see that image posted above and interpret it as “oh- lockdown is over!”

What are you seeing on that image that tells you lockdown is over @Mikki2019?

Fuckwits like the OPs husband and Mikki2019 are why this virus will just keep spreading. Christ on a bike!

Lockdown has been extended for 3 weeks in Wales, where I am. Slightly relaxed, we can go out more than once a day for exercise, but still going. I don't think England will be any different.

Keep them home OP, he's an idiot.

‘Limit contact with other people’ - surely you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to realise that means no contact with others unless really necessary.

I’m sure the government are making these guidelines up for fun

Lock down isn't anywhere close to being over. Mik I suggest you watch government briefings instead of media gossip. I'd be furious to OP.

@NicEv this isn't about the children 'being possessions'. The risks are clear. If one parent can't be trusted to act in the children's best interests then the other parent surely should step in to ensure their safety. I would never suggest stopping contact willy nilly but this is serious especially if there are high risk people involved. The op has every right to protect herself and her kids.

did you trust him before?

Hmm. The risk is probably minimal but why let that get in the way of stopping an ex who you don't like from seeing his kids.

Well that Instagram says stay at home as much as possible. I assume it was possible to avoid going to the friend's house. Maybe not. Maybe it was literally impossible to stay home and they had to go,

Can’t believe that a person would interpret Boris’ tweet as “lockdown is basically over” 😱

Mikki2019, that is just a re-phrasing of the current guidelines.

I haven't liked lockdown, and have refused to engage in any of the more insane aspects of it that have come out, but I am sad to say that it isn't over, and nowhere on that picture that you have posted does it say that it is. I wish it were, but that is wishful thinking.

We don't yet know the full detail (if there is much) of what Boris will say this evening.

Does anyone see this as a safe guarding issue?
Sorry if it's been mentioned, I ve not read all the posts as I'm so cross for the poor poster.

Er ..... isn't it between you and your kids father.

Why bother sharing it with the world ffs!!??