Keeping children at home until September

[Witchcraftandhokum]

I work in a school and I'm seeing and hearing a lot of this both on here and in the contact I have with parents. I am worried about how we will manage social distancing and whether we will have PPE if the schools open soon, but I do appreciate the need for kids to be in school, particularly Year 6 and 10.

I also don't know how it will work if a lot of parents chose not send their kids back until September. I wonder just how many parents will do this?

So...
YABU - My kids won't be back until September.
YANBU - My kids will go back as soon as the schools open.

Cremebrule

You are not allowed to mention the teachers. they are (for some) just collateral damage. (Oh Just in case IMO)

@Biscuit0110

Will you be teaching them?

We can not possibly support the state locking our children away for six months

Biscuit0110
you have a very disturbing view of your own family life, it's frightening.

In which country are you? Where is the state locking the children away? Are you in China?

OneandTwenty not all home lifes are the same. There may be children with mental health issues or parents with mental health issues. Children who have to care for parents etc. School may be their 'safe' place.

But the vast majority of people survive, they don’t go to hospital, some people don’t even know they’ve had it. More people come out of hospital than don’t. You may even have had it.
I know, it's a really tough one, but I've 2 in our house that would go down ill n flames (really bad asthma and my husband is on cancer medication for arthritis) and I've a lot of relatives in their 80s.

You have badly mistaken, you do know what we only locked down to help the NHS cope, we can't stay in lockdown indefinitely to 'stay alive'.

what exactly do you think it means, to help the NHS cope?!?

Now we do know far more, much more, and it is such a tiny percentage of children that are affected by CoVid, reflecting the stats in other parts of the world

Children are in school with adults. Adults are affected. Read the report I posted up thread and then come back and tell me off you would be happy to work in a school under those circumstances. Moreover, your concern for children doesn’t seem to extend to children who will become sick and die or indeed, the children of school staff who would suffer the loss of a parent. Why not be transparent and say all you give a stuff about is your own children. At least that would be honest.

MrPickles73
that's why schools are, mainly, still opened and the staff trying to keep in touch and help the children who do NEED it. Many teachers work MORE hours to try protecting the most vulnerable.

People keep confusing schools with childcare, it's the same parents who moaned that schools holidays were too long and they need their "me time" (just look at the tens of threads at the end of every single half term....)

What kind of home life do your inflict on your poor kids if you think that a 6 months break at home is causing so much damage?!?!?

It’s not a 6 month break at home ffs. They can’t see their friends, they can’t see their extended families - gps etc. Their parents are trying to hold down jobs and therefore leaving them to watch tv far too much, whilst trying to homeschool and hold things together. They can’t go to the playgrounds, they can’t go anywhere much. They are missing their schools, their activities.

Some children are stuck in inadequate housing with parents who aren’t equipped to look after them - separated from the schools and other social structures that provide stability and food.

So it’s not a 6 month break!

What kind of home life do your inflict on your poor kids if you think that a 6 months break at home is causing so much damage?!?!?

It is not the six months at home that is the problem ffs, it is the complete absence of friends, sports, hobbies outside of home, playgrounds, days out, education, grandparents, family visits, birthday parties, hospital visits, dental check ups, vaccinations, holidays I could go on and on.

A wonderful life at home can't provide all of the above can it?!! As magical as life in lockdown is for our children according to you, I think they just need some normality actually, and to see other children!

And I haven't even touched on the impact of no schooling for six months.

A child or family not coping without school for 6 months can have nothing to do with homelife.

So it’s not a 6 month break!

I wouldn't call it a holiday, because it's far from one, but let's not get completely ridiculous and pretend a 6 to 12 months break from school has long -lasting psychological damage.

Some people need to get a grip. They are the ones damaging their children by creating such drama.

one no sadly I am here in England, and right now it feels no different to China!

you do know what we only locked down to help the NHS cope
Yes, because if they don't cope more people will die, hence my reasoning, we are in to (ultimately, end goal) keep people alive.

Link to study confirming children are not super spreaders
adc.bmj.com/content/early/2020/05/05/archdischild-2020-319474

@OneandTwenty
that's why schools are, mainly, still opened and the staff trying to keep in touch and help the children who do NEED it. Many teachers work MORE hours to try protecting the most vulnerable.

The vast majority of vulnerable children are not at school. The attainment gap is growing.

Domina You actually couldn't be further from the truth. I am absolutely desperate to get back to work. But I want it done in a manner that is safe for both staff and students.

Biscuit0110

you need to get over yourself and start giving a decent life to your poor kids. There's strictly no need to project your issues like that and pretend we are in some kind of dystopian hell hole.

Blimey, even the poor Spanish on strict lockdown who did have it really bad didn't whine so much!

Someone was asking about how COV19 compares to causes of child deaths. I found this:

'In 2012 over 3,000 babies died before age one, and over 2,000 children and young people died between the ages of one and nineteen.

Over half of deaths in childhood occur during the first year of a child’s life, and are strongly influenced by pre-term delivery and low birth weight. Risk factors include maternal age, smoking and disadvantaged circumstances.

Suicide remains a leading cause of death in young people in the UK, and the number of deaths due to intentional injuries and self-harm have not declined in 30 years.

After the age of one, injury is the most frequent cause of death; over three quarters of deaths due to injury in the age bracket of 10-18 year olds are related to traffic incidents.'

www.rcpch.ac.uk/resources/why-children-die-research-recommendations

so compare 3000 children (mostly accidents and suicide) to the number from COVID19?

LittleBearPad
and that's exactly why teachers are trying to reach out.

If this country relies strictly on school to do all our social work , we really need to rethink the entire education system.

@OneandTwenty try not to be so accusatory and vile!

My childs home life is nice, he's home with me all day, we play, i try and teach him things, we bake etc, then his dad comes home from work, we eat tea together, he has a nice bedtime routine. In general, my son is lucky. He has a nice life. Happy parents, a secure home.

However, he's the only child in our household (DP has a 15yo as well but he is isolating with his mum). DS misses his friends desperately. He misses his brother, and our wider family. He asks about "the germs" all the time. He is visibly sad when i say he cant go back to nursery yet.

If this carries on and his nursery doesnt open soon, i will likely lose my job. There goes his secure home. There goes his happy parents. #

So before you open your mouth next time, have a think why some kids would be better off in school.

It would just suit you perfectly to call it drama, will you be saying that still when we see the consequences of this lockdown on the children that have awful lives at home? What happens to them? You are seriously short sighted if you think that many thousands of children are not suffering abuse and starvation at home, and if this goes on for another 3/4 months what will happen to them?

I wouldn't call it a holiday, because it's far from one, but let's not get completely ridiculous and pretend a 6 to 12 months break from school has long -lasting psychological damage.

Some people need to get a grip. They are the ones damaging their children by creating such drama

ODFOD

I very much doubt anyone is saying this to their children. I’m not. But they miss their friends and the rest of their lives and if you think that doesn’t have some effect on their happiness you’re not very empathetic. 6 months to a year is a long time when you’re 6!

TrustTheGeneGenie
I am not vile because I am pointing out that being hysterical is unhelpful, and really unnecessary.

It's not ideal. We are all missing out on a lot of things.
However, it's up to you to present the situation to a very young child as a holiday, something positive. Not to make it a dramatic situation when it really isn't.

At worst most kids are bored. It's hardly likely to cause long-term psychological damage because they have to entertain themselves a bit more than usual, with books, tv, internet, and still thankfully some access to outdoor exercise and fresh air.

It's embarrassing to read how hysterical some people are.

Your nasty posts don't bother me one I am confident of my parenting skills, but thanks all the same.