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Do men keep women down, because of how powerful women are.

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Annamaria14 · 09/05/2020 18:43

I was talking to a man before lockdown. He said "you have a lot of power, whether you know it or not." He said " women have no idea of the huge amount of power that they have over men. That men want women desperately. And women have power because women create life"

He said that as a man, will look at a woman as she walks past and think " she is so hugely powerful, she creates life, something that I cannot do".

He said, that is precisely why men have been trying to keep women down in many areas of society, so that women will forget how immensely powerful they are. Because women are immensely powerful beings, men want to keep women down, because they are scared of them.

Ever since he said it to me, I have begin to realise how powerful I actually am. That many of us women have just forgotten it.

What do you think?

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MayFayner · 09/05/2020 18:47

If women are so powerful, how do men keep them down?

BalloonSlayer · 09/05/2020 18:50

Well I always thought Freud's theory about penis envy was balls (see what I did there?) as I think men have womb envy.

And I sometimes think all these super-intelligent robots that you keep seeing on the news . . . I often think, what's the point, I can create something much better than that just with my body.

Shamoo · 09/05/2020 18:51

I think generally speaking men (the type of me who do so) keep women down because they can, because the world allows them to, because they enjoy being powerful themselves and because they are horrible. They generally think women are less than men. They certainly don’t do it because they think that women are more powerful than them!!

araiwa · 09/05/2020 18:51

He wanted to sex you

Sparklingbrook · 09/05/2020 18:53

He sounds a little odd.

Kleptronic · 09/05/2020 18:54

Yeah he wants to have sex with you. As araiwa said.

DrunkUnicorn · 09/05/2020 18:55

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CanofCant · 09/05/2020 18:55

He wanted to sex you

Yeah. It was a line to flatter you and make him seem in awe of you.

KKSlider · 09/05/2020 18:56

He sounds like the sort of dickhead who considers himself to be "different to the other men" and a "nice guy", who often whinges about being "friendzoned" because of being different and a nice guy. I bet he's really smug about how he's going around enlightening the women and helping them take control of their power because goodness knows we would never be able to perceive such a thing in our tiny little women brains unless a man was to point it out to us.

CanofCant · 09/05/2020 18:56

Then he would probably treat you like shit because he was so fearful of your immense power. Hmm

AgeLikeWine · 09/05/2020 18:56

No man has ever ‘kept me down’. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Since I started doing my A levels and told my male teachers that I wanted to be the first person in my family to go to university, I have had support and encouragement, both personal and professional, from many different men. Perhaps some women need to associate with a better sort of man?

KingJarvis · 09/05/2020 18:57

So if a man compliments women, he automatically just wants to have sex with them?

Bullshit

Sparklingbrook · 09/05/2020 18:57

He said that as a man, will look at a woman as she walks past and think " she is so hugely powerful, she creates life, something that I cannot do".

While looking at her breasts probably.

NotNowPlzz · 09/05/2020 18:57

No I completely agree. I think they hate how vulnerable they are to their mothers and how vulnerable they are to sex and sexual rejection, and this fuels their desire to control and belittle women.

TheNewSchmoo · 09/05/2020 18:57

He sounds like a bit of a twat to be honest. My bits clenched just reading it.

NotNowPlzz · 09/05/2020 18:58

I don't think any of it is conscious though.

CanofCant · 09/05/2020 18:58

It's not a compliment, it sounds more like an excuse for bad behaviour.

HeyDuggeewhatchadoin · 09/05/2020 19:02

He was close. Men hate women.
If you doubt it, how come sex, although a protected characteristic, cannot be the basis for hate crime? Rape and domestic abuse (disproportionately male on female) would become a hate crime.

Germaine Greer: "Women have very little idea of how much men hate them."

GlassHouseYouGlassHouse · 09/05/2020 19:02

This reminds me of the book The Power. It made me think that the only reason men have the upper hand is because they could kill us with their bare hands if the wanted to!

The book Wifework has a pretty interesting take on this subject, but I can't remember it well enough to give a good summary.

Toseland · 09/05/2020 19:02

If women are so powerful, how do men keep them down?

I think they take advantage of women being distracted by children.

Annamaria14 · 09/05/2020 19:04

He didn't want to have sex with me. I met him in a situation where I would never see him again, (at a meetup while I was travelling), and he knew that I was getting a plane in the evening.

The thing is - he is not the only man that said that to me.

I have heard it from several different men throughout my life.

That women have huge power.

And that men keep them down, and tell them they are worthless, to make women forget that power.

Several men have said this to me.

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NiteFlights · 09/05/2020 19:05

So if a man compliments women, he automatically just wants to have sex with them?

Depends on the man and the ‘compliment’; in OP’s case I’d say yes, he does.

LumaLou · 09/05/2020 19:07

Sounds like a chat up lineBlush Sounds like quite black and white thinking too.

Yeah, we still live in a patriarchal society Men have more power than women, economically and politically.

The Marxist Feminist perspective would say that this is due to capitalism. Women’s Labour traditionally took place at home. Women still predominate the caring professions.

I always think that we need to empower men to break this cycle, but ultimately, most men are socialised not to take low paid or unpaid roles.

It’s not all about biology.

zscaler · 09/05/2020 19:07

Sounds like a particularly creepy excuse for misogyny tbh.

TheMobileSiteMadeMeSignup · 09/05/2020 19:10

Sounds like a twat who hasn't quite mastered the art of negging.

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