To be shocked at ndn having visitors?

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Next door neighbours in their 70’s, had a visitor arrive on a bicycle yesterday and had a visitor arrive in a car today. I’m sure they’re just sitting in the garden so probably are keeping the social distance but given that I’ve not seen anyone since lockdown began I’m a bit about it! I don’t want to dob them in as I really like my neighbours. Just totally surprised! DH says well people are doing that, visiting friends and family but keeping the distance. ( to be clear - We aren’t visiting or having visitors!)

I’m pretty sure our neighbours got all dressed up and went to a dinner party somewhere tonight. I’ve never seen them looking that fancy before really and surely it’s not like anything’s open, so I can’t imagine where they went off to except a function at someone else’s house. But as long as they stay away from me...

Neighbours both sides of us have had their families round, on one side the lady has her son & grandchildren every day and she’s very high risk. Neighbours down the street, their daughters have had their boyfriends visit a few times as well as family. It’s not like I’m stood at my window watching, we just have a big front window & can see everyone! Anyway it’s up to them what they do, me and mine have stayed home, haven’t seen anyone so we’ve no guilt.

Dd has had fiancé round to talk in the garden. No physical contact is just about killing them but talking helps. I'm waiting for the neighbours to come round and pontificate......

@mindutopia the only thing I can think of is Coppafeels Formal Friday..seen a few people on social media posting photos dressed up so maybe it was for that? (Plus makes a change from jeans/leggings!!.. I should try it haha!!)

How do you know they are not care workers, checking in on your neighbours,!

Oh god it's so annoying. I'm in our front bedroom but can still hear my neighbours little gathering in the back garden because windows are open. It nearly 1am. They're terrible. In the meantime I'm arranging a funeral for my dad and we can only have 5 people and then you get dicks like this drinking their champagne. Nice middle class area too, bloody depressing.

@my2bundles it's pure ignorance to overlook the impact on peoples mental health too. again, not sure how people staying over 2m away increases transmission rates atall. called common sense - dont be so condescending

I’m part of a team that carries out home visits to families/vulnerable groups who would’ve previously popped into my clinic.

I use my bike to travel between sessions as it’s costs less more efficient. Hadn’t prior to your post thought that curious neighbours may be thinking I’m making a social call.

In Australia, kids in the cul de sac playing together every day.
Parents tried to keep them apart initially but then gave up.
Very low COVID numbers where we live.
DD2 works in a sports store in local shopping centre.
They have been flat out lately. People are bored and wanting to get out of the house.
I went in on Wednesday to get new shoes for work. I had walked 22,000 steps in my old work shoes the previous day and was getting blisters. Staff member who helped me expressed frustration at people browsing with no intent or need to buy.
Our Premier is saying stay at home, but people do not see the threat.

I think people have just had enough,which was bound to happen

Where exactly have you been going that’s so bloody exciting?

Work everyday 🙄. You stay in your bubble, you're probably one of those batshit people who will stay locked up for months, just in case and harping on about a second wave. Oh wait a minute, you already have.

Everyone I know in this sunny weather is doing local visits to parents or people alone and sitting garden doing the 2M. I cycle to my Mom or dropping her shopping off sit in the garden with her for an hr. She's a widow and we lost my bro to cancer 3 mths ago there's no way she can see no one right now. Our area v low cases dh n I only going to local shops, shop for her and my neighbours and wfm. most days my DS cycles to her and chats in garden to her too and my bro and his kids do same. If u really wanted to see your Mum & it's not far away I don't know why not. Yes there's a chance I picked it up in supermarket and somehow transmit to her sat 2m away but cases low here and we've made our own risk assessment as adults that its ok to do this as it seems has most of the population at this point.

Surely you are aware, OP, that most people don't live with their own private field to exercise in? There is nothing wrong with their home that they are desperate to get out, but 8 weeks stuck in a tiny flat with no garden, or even a regular sized house with a small garden is hard for people, not just physically but also mentally. Going out and meeting other people from a safe distance can be important for their mental wellbeing. Good for you that you have everything you need right at home, but is it really so hard to imagine other people living in different circumstances?

OP you are correct in not not visiting your mother even to sit 2m plus away from her.

Its non essential travel. The sad thing is instead of doing what they are told (because lots if people just can tolerate not having it their way) SOME people do this. Some dress it up as delivering goods, that they strictly don't need to deliver as the people they visit are actually getting goods through other means or whatever, but they are using this as a loophole to get what they want. They say, this helps them get through or the people they are visiting get through this shit time, which im sure it does. These people will usually state a list of reasons as to why actually they justify this choice. The bottom line is that this is individuals assessing their own risk/risk to people they're visiting and simply not following what we've been asked.They will try to justify this with a l7st of reasons why their need to do this is greater than yours mine or Fred down the road and I've seen it on here people say in addition to their reasons.... yes but and they can't actually arrest me for it, or there are no police around our area blah blah.
Ironically these are the same people that are moaning about another 3 weeks of our loose and flexible/maliable lock down rules.

SO with the Welsh announcing an other 3 weeks but with slight loosening of exercise rules and opening of recycling centres, libraries and garden centres with social distancing, it's these people that are moaning. The gentle lifting is done to try and add some kind of relief to the monotony, hardship and to try and keep the public on board for another 3 weeks. On here and on social media there is a flurry if comments of, well I've been doing this any way so FFS it's no different for me/us. Like they're so hard done by. Whilst those that have stuck to the rules as they were intended, not manipulated, are grateful for these small changes as they will perk us up after 7 long weeks of doing what we've been asked.
Even after the First Minister yesterday said people in Wales could leave their homes for more than once a day for exercise and stipulated exercise should start and end at home, the same type of people are saying they will drive to exercise because he hasn't actually said ,don't drive to do it, again manipulating it to their own need by trying to justify it eith it's quieter, it's only 5 miles blah blah.

I'll get a shit storm for saying it lon here,ike the same group are taking the piss and being shitty with you bybsayingbof course you could have gone. Yes you could have if you made up some bullshit to justify it.

These comments are exactly why there should be a proper lockdown. Makes me so sad. It's not 'batshit' people that will stay locked up for months. Many people will be asked to stay in their homes for months more because selfish idiots are spreading this virus round. And because although so many people don't give a shit 30,000 people are dead.

My dad died last week, not of covid, he didn't want to see a doctor, whether that would have changed the outcome for him I don't know. There can only be 5 mourners at the funeral. We could only visit in his last days through strict arrangements. The police stopped me to ask where I was going. I couldn't see my mum because she's shielding, I couldn't stay with family because I'm not in their household.

In the real world people are following these rules because they care about their health and that of others and they're not stupid enough to think they can outsmart a virus by a 'risk assessment.'

But maybe to hell with it, it's only when one of the people you know is in intensive care that you might think differently about the people they caught it off.

Same neighbours either side having visitors regularly. Mumsnet awash with Mind your own business and justification of unnecessary shopping trips when families like mine - 4 adults have 1 nominated shopper who goes out once a week and have had no visitors . It’s a pain but JFDI. I get that those without cars need to shop more regularly of course

Our junior doctor neighbours had a birthday party last weekend

I know doctors and nurses who are doing this. I know teachers doing this.
The police are not going to be interested so I’d keep your nose out. Maybe she’s really struggling, I know we are and there’s four of us here.

We’ve visited my parents every week. They stay inside, we stand in the garden. But they could be in the garden at a distance just as easily. I haven’t been inside their house in 8 weeks.

One of our friends is a chief inspector and he is doing the same with his parents.

There is no problem with this.

I often read these posts and get the sense that people genuinely think lockdown is to eradicate the virus. It’s not at all. When lockdown is lifted enough to have gatherings, they will of course be a second wave.

However, the odd ‘rule breakers’ going out now and socialising means they can catch it and recover now, taking the pressure off the NHS when there is another wave again.

Those individuals going to see other people aren’t going to cause the second wave - that will be purely on how the government deal with the lifting of lockdown.

I have to stop working from home on Monday. When I spoke to dd's school they actually asked me whether there were friends or family who could watch her is instead, and then specifically asked if she could go to my mum and dads (dad is 77!) So I think social distancing between friends and family is coming to an end.

@ElderflowerPotion If the majority of people thought like that then it makes the lockdown useless.
It’s not for us to decide how much we obey lockdown , it was for everyone !
Why should most give up seeing people to keep others safe if they won’t do the same back ? Makes it completely pointless

Please report this. You really should. It's people like her that keep the r number too high.

Our neighbours definitely have their adult daughter round. Tbh it's their business not mine. My adult daughter lives 100 miles away so not a dilemma I face.

My neighbours don't really have parties, but have had 2 in.the last 4 weeks. They start in the garden, then move in.the h Liu as until about 1am. First time, they asked if we were ok with it, or rather'you won't don us in will you?' What do you say? They're good neighbours and we have no intention of moving, so there's no point falling out.

We just sit and silently judge😀