To wonder what is going to happen with nurseries?!

[TeddyIsaHe]

I haven’t seen any mention of nurseries/early years at all in the news/daily updates and it’s starting to stress me out slightly.

Before anyone says anything, I KNOW lockdown is important. But so is mental health, and I’m honestly at breaking point at the moment. It would be really helpful to just have some inkling of a end point where we can all aim for.

But all talk is about schools etc. Surely early years is just as, if not more important to get the economy back up and running?!

And z teddy that is not a fact that secondry will open later Have the government said this? No they haven't so it's not a fact.

Pure speculation on your part teddy.

Also secondry are equally as important as nurserys and primary school, the higher years are taking gcse and aA level next year, these kids are the direct future for the economy

They'll still be able to go out and get jobs after school. What matters is the economy now. That means primary schools and nurseries need to go back to enable people to work NOW. Not in 5 years time.

It is also a lot easier to leave children who are secondary school aged to get on with school work relatively unsupervised. I agree with PP's sentiment that the priority is getting people back to work, which if you have nursery or primary aged children, is close to impossible if you can't put them in childcare or school. In the majority of households both parents work, both parents working from home whilst looking after small children is not sustainable long term. Speaking from personal experience, I cannot get my work done effectively whilst keeping half an eye on my three year old.

Teddy I'm sure this generation of gcse and A level students are delighted you have wrote them off. But that's ok right? As long as your toddler gets to go to nursery? I'm being sarcastic by the way.

Who has wrote them off?

At that age they should be able to work at home. When they go back to school they will catch up. Their parents don't need to supervise them so they can work and keep a roof over their heads.

Parents of toddlers cannot do that. Should alll parents of toddlers lose their jobs or?

Studying from home with little teacher input and zero class discussions is a world away from being in a classroom and being taught a subject with class debate and discussion. They need to be on school. I'm. Not saying g toddlers shouldn't go to nursery, I'm saying it's false to say nursery is more important than secondry school. It's not.

@my2bundles you are obviously taking everything that I’m saying as a personal insult, which it obviously isn’t. So I’m going to leave it there with you.

AT THE MOMENT nurseries and primaries ARE more important to revive the economy.

I’m not wishing your children a shit life with no prospects, but if the economy is fucked how is their education going to benefit?

This isn’t hard to grasp!

And no its not a magic switch, some won't just catch up 😠 this will affect their grades and future.

To you they are more important. To this generation of kids they are not.

Why is every one snappingat each other on here lately. From what I get from the BBC government updates. (didn,t watch yesterdays.) There is no set time for the school. I think they are hoping to go back in June but this has not been set. as far as nursery,s go. At the mo they are operating like the schools eg open for key workers so I don,t think the advice will be that much different.

@my2bundles but can you not see practically speaking, younger children need to be put back into childcare and school just as much as those of secondary school age? You can leave a 15 year old to get on with their school work, they can have classes online via zoom etc. No one is belittling their struggle and I really feel for those kids whose education has been halted because of this virus. But practically speaking younger children need to be put back first in order to allow their parents to go back to work, this includes teachers who teach secondary school

Exactly June. Which has been my point all along. OP started by saying schools have been talked about and nurserys are more important which is what got my back up. Her situation is no more important than anyone else's, and her toddler is no more important than older kids education.

Get me I do get that. It's teddy who dosent. It's teddy who assumes toddlers are far more important than older age groups They are not.

Where have I said my toddler is more important than your kids or their education? You’re reading things that haven’t been written.

My entire point is that to revive the economy we need childcare to get people back to work.

Without an economy revival your children will have an education that’s underfunded, healthcare that is lacking, mental health support that isn’t there because no money, less ability to get good jobs. Do you not see the economy affects every single person?

There will be no jobs for the next generation of kids if we don't re open the economy soon. Not sure what you don't understand about that.

I lost my job in March. I have a very active 18 month old. I can't look for another job because I can't give them a start date until nurseries open. I know some parents are WFH with toddlers but would you hire me in this situation vs someone with no/older children?

If he was late primary or secondary, it wouldn't be an issue, because DH works from home and could easily supervise.

Get out. They carnt have lessons via zoom when the majority of schools dont use zoom for security reasons. Many kids don't have access to laptops and WiFi. But crack on with your misinformed views.

Yes the eonomy effects everyone. Yes kids will need to have childcare for that to happen. That dosent need to be instead of secondry education. Teddy very clearly said in her OP that nurserys are more important than older kids. I stand by the right to say this is wrong.

@my2bundles I don't think you're really understanding what other posters are saying.

Schools being off is bad, clearly. But if you have older children they can be left alone meaning parents can work. This is not the case for parents of younger children.

Secondary kids are not being sacrificed for the sake of younger kids. If it was safe to open everything they would. What they are almost certainly going to do is "sacrifice" the safety of younger children and their families to restart the economy. You should be lucky your children are old enough to not be in the firing line.

No child's educational future is in danger here.

But all talk is about schools etc. Surely early years is just as, if not more important to get the economy back up and running

This is what I said in my op. Not toddlers are more important than secondary age children

I never said "instead of"

I stand by my point that small kids should go back first. Followed by or even alongside GCSE and A-level year kids.

@my2bundles you need to stop taking people everything as a personal insult and think of things practically. The OP never said in her OP that toddlers were more important than secondary school children. Notice how neither me or the OP are taking offence at your putting down of smaller children, because that's silly. Smaller children's development is being effected by this crisis, this is something that will effect them in the long term. Again purely from a practical perspective, smaller children cannot he left on their own whilst secondary school aged children can. So therefor it would make more sense PRACTICALLY to put the younger children in first to allow people to get back to work more quickly.

The OP said nurseries opening to "get the economy back up and running" i.e. the immediate future is more important and she is not wrong. She would be wrong if this was a thread about the economic prospects of the class of 2023.

Not only am I not working and paying tax, I am costing the state in JSA. If my DS was older this would not be the case. Many parents of very young kids who cannot WFH have had to ask to be furloughed.