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To not continue to buy my exH's family presents?

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GlummyMcGlummerson · 05/05/2020 20:06

ExH and I have been split up for nearly a year. We’re leading separate lives in separate cities whilst trying to co-parent our 7yo and 3yo.

When we were together I did ALL the “life admin”, even in regard to his family - bought all presents, RSVPd to weddings and organised hotels, outfits etc, sorted us going to family parties, everything. I did it begrudgingly because I always loved (most of) his family and otherwise nothing would get done.

The kids came back from a week at his on Sunday, the same day as their cousin’s (exSIL’s son) 7th birthday. I commented on her Facebook post saying happy birthday Harry, but I didn’t check if the kids had spoken to him as, by then time they got home at 5.30pm, it had gone from my mind. May or may not be relevant - “Harry” is very spoilt and indulged, to a ridiculous degree, Ex and I used to refer to him between ourselves as Little Lord Fauntleroy. There would be an expectation from everyone to make a big deal about his birthday.

Yesterday I got a text from exSIL saying that Harry is very upset as he feels his cousins forgot his birthday - they didn’t get a call, a card or a present, and she “expected better of me” Hmm. She knows they came home in the evening and Harry was expecting a call when they got back. Now since Ex and I split up, I’ve maintained a good relationship with his family - mainly because I always got on with them, especially his mum and dad, and there really was no need for any animosity. But his siblings were always hard work and I wasn’t sorry to see the back of them. So I simply replied “speak to your brother” and thanked my lucky stars I didn’t have to please her any more.

Anyway today I got a text fro exMIL - who BTW I adore and she’s been amazingly supportive since the split. She said exSIL is obviously upset because Harry’s birthday was a bit naff in isolation and that was compounded by no contact from his favourite cousins - which she acknowledges is exH’s fault entirely. However she’s basically gone on to ask if I could carry on getting presents for their family members - on behalf on the DC and/or me rather than from ex - as she feels that otherwise there’s gonna be no presents at all and a lot of upset.

My first thought was “no fucking way”. Aside from the fact that I don’t want to continue to facilitate exH’s goal of being the biggest manchild in existence, I’m a single mum now and this could cost a fortune! His family is huge and even if I spent just £10 each on cousins, aunties, uncles and grandparents, for Xmas and birthdays that would be £400 a year!

However, she’s right about one thing - if I said no, there’d be no presents for them ever again. ExH has the unfortunate affliction of being lazy, selfish and tight fisted all at the same time. He’s not hapless or forgetful - but buying presents means taking more than 4 seconds to do something for someone else, whilst parting with his money, and he won’t do it. And he wouldn’t be ashamed about it either (you can see why he’s an Ex). His mum and dad especially deserve better than that. I’m not exaggerating when I say I’ll be amazed if DD gets anything from him for her birthday in a couple of weeks. So if I do say no, then my in laws will get nothing and my DC will be in the horrible position of being the only grandkids not to buy granny, grandad etc presents at Christmas - something they scarcely notice now but will do before long.

Good people of MN - what should I do?!

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Home42 · 05/05/2020 21:55

I help my kid get something age appropriate for her Dad for Xmas and Fathers Day. I send my MIL a Xmas card. After that my duty is done and it is no longer my job to facilitate my lazy ex husband. If MIL is that bothered SHE can buy for the family from your kids.... no longer your circus or your monkeys!

LouiseTrees · 05/05/2020 21:56

You should say to your mother in law that you don’t have the money but if you ex gives you the money in advance for each birthday then you’ll do it. Make it that she needs to sort something with him. Also say you wish you could even buy them something token because you value them but then you are worried they’d think you were cheaping out.

browzingss · 05/05/2020 21:57

It’s not your responsibility and it’s unfair of your MIL to ask.

She should buy the presents on behalf of him, not you. You definitely shouldn’t unnecessarily cripple your finances.

WhereYouLeftIt · 05/05/2020 22:01

"However she’s basically gone on to ask if I could carry on getting presents for their family members - on behalf on the DC and/or me rather than from ex - as she feels that otherwise there’s gonna be no presents at all and a lot of upset."
Frankly that was a pretty shitty thing for her to do to you. Pure manipulation.

Personally, I would buy presents for MIL & PIL because it sounds as if you have a relationship with them. But aunties, cousins, spoilt little Harrys - no. They are no longer your family. And if your Ex tells his mum to fuck off if she asks him to step up to adulthood - well, that's not your problem. Nor is it your responsibility.

londonrach · 05/05/2020 22:02

Id get a present for their granny and grandad from you and the children as you close to them but rest of family its your ex family...

GlummyMcGlummerson · 05/05/2020 22:02

To answer questions - I haven't had a birthday since the split but it's in a few weeks and his parents have already asked what I'd like as a voucher so I know I'll get something. I won't waste my breath asking exH to why something for me from the kids - I spent 12 years of him running out to ASDA the night before my birthday, getting me something shit and moaning because the queue was long or pyjamas were £16, and saying "you didn't want a card did you?". he certainly isn't gonna make the effort now.

I do buy for family and friends and always send the kids with a present to their friends' birthday parties.

I'm gonna reply tomorrow (thanks for the great suggestions on what to say particularly Allotment and Janet) and say I'll buy for her and exFIL but not for anyone else. Little Lord Fauntleroy will just have to lump it, I'm not sending anything either (think Dudley from Harry Potter having a tantrum because he only got 31 presents as opposed to last years' 32, and that's our "Harry"!). I just can't continue to do the shit that contributes to the breakdown of our marriage when I'm not even in the bloody marriage!

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TinRoofRusty · 05/05/2020 22:03

What if you get a new relationship? What about when your kids grow up? What about when he gets a new girlfriend (some stupid person always falls for a twat like this)? Just NO. From or Calm's responses are perfect. Do not be guilted into further enabling this lazy twat at your expense. You are divorced. That means no more life work for this man.

Standrewsschool · 05/05/2020 22:04

I wouldn’t buy presents on behalf of him.

However, if i consider them friends in my own right, then I would consider buying presents for cousins, and sign the card from Glummy and DC, definantly not ex.

TinRoofRusty · 05/05/2020 22:07

Homemade cards and a call, no money gifts. Don't enable his selfish, tight arse anymore. VERY cheeky and unfair of them to even approach you.

GlummyMcGlummerson · 05/05/2020 22:07

When my DH forgot his mother's birthday one year, she blamed me!

Ugh I know sends me nuts! My (golden boy to mum, he's actually a massive prick) brother forgot her birthday one year and my mum AND grandad bollocked his new wife!! I rang her and apologised on behalf of the family and told her to ignore the misogynistic arses. The marriage didn't last long - she saw sense and left the lazy twat.

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abw94 · 05/05/2020 22:08

If exH foots the bill, yes. They need to understand you can't be a single mom on a married couple wage!!

GlummyMcGlummerson · 05/05/2020 22:12

Presumably they haven't all been running around and helping you?

MIL and FIL have TBF. They didn't take sides and they helped me move back to my home town, right down to lifting things into the moving van and helping me set up my new home, even though it broke everyone's heart that I was taking the kids away - it was especially hard on them as we are now 2 hours away and exH sees kids EOW and school holidays - because he's useless and I'm 99% sure that they are on the iPads the whole time they're with him, MIL and FIL were worried they'd hardly see the kids. They go round a lot though and babysit when they're at his - but they did still help me move on with my life rather than disowning me, which I'll always appreciate. It's more than my mum did, who was gutted I was divorcing "such a nice man" Hmm

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lyralalala · 05/05/2020 22:13

I wouldn’t buy presents other than for Gran and Grandad. And that would be for the sake of the children. I only ever bought for my girls’ cousins if they were going to a party.

What I did always do though is get them to text or phone their cousins on birthdays. It shouldn’t have been my job, but ex wouldn’t have done it. The only reason I did was because the cousins were all close and I want the girls to keep that.

Amammi · 05/05/2020 22:13

I don’t understand all the people saying it’s his family. They are also your children’s family? I’d keep up the links if you can fit the sake of your children. Agree you don’t need to buy gifts for adults other than the grandparents but if you can manage it it’s a nice thing to do on behalf of your children for their cousins.

TinRoofRusty · 05/05/2020 22:15

That's a separate issue, though, OP, and shouldn't be dependent on your forking out for gifts for their family because he's too cheap and thoughtless.

GlummyMcGlummerson · 05/05/2020 22:15

Does your ex buy his dc gifts?

They got "joint presents" for Christmas as even though we'd split up we still lived together (presents bought by me, we'd separated finances by then) but when DS turned 3 exH bought him fuck all. On the premise "he'll never notice, he's only 3". Broke my heart.

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TinRoofRusty · 05/05/2020 22:17

It costs money she no longer has, Amammi.

TorkTorkBam · 05/05/2020 22:19

I wouldn't tell her I will buy for her and xFIL. I also would not explain too much. She knows. After all this is all happening because she is trying to stop her other spoiled children from kicking off. She understands what she is asking you don't need to explain to get her to understand.

Anyway, explanations are the start of a negotiation. This is not a negotiation.

"Oh MIL, you know I can't do that. Please don't ask again x"

After that, if you send a card to them from yourself, that's a bonus.

Chances are though that she will soon fall out with you now you refuse to play along with enabling the many Little Lord Fauntleroys she and FIL have created. She must have put in serious fucked up effort over many years to create that many monsters.

Daisy12Maisie · 05/05/2020 22:20

No. I dont even buy for my sisters because I'm a single mum and my money goes on me and the kids.
I would just say that you are going to have to leave it to your ex to sort now as you dont have the money or the time.
It's not rude its self preservation. There is so much admin to do as a single mum I think it would be a really, really bad idea to take all this on as well. Be polite but firm or I really think you will regret it

GlummyMcGlummerson · 05/05/2020 22:26

Amammi I probably could manage most months, but in October there's 7 birthdays between grandparents, cousins and aunties and uncles - that's £70+ (my council tax!) on people who are no longer my family and should be my exH's responsibility. Yes it's nice for the kids to get presents for family and I'm torn between having them do the right thing re presents and presenting to them a negative gender stereotype of women, who picks up all the shit the nearest man has dumps behind him, and do it with a smile on her face so as "not to upset" anyone.

I've done my best in this split to hide what a shitbag their dad is - and there's little comfort in "one day they'll see for themselves - that doesn't help me right now, they may realise aged 29 when it's too late and they have their own family and are entrenched in their own gendered stereotypes!

But honestly finding a balance in protecting them from the truth about what a shit person he is, and not lying about him and his character, is really really tough.

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lyralalala · 05/05/2020 22:30

But honestly finding a balance in protecting them from the truth about what a shit person he is, and not lying about him and his character, is really really tough.

You'll get there, you really will. Don't lie to them, don't overly critisize him, but don't shield them if they need to know

By the sounds of it you might end up like me and my girls - the girls see their grandparents and an Uncle & Aunt who have made the effort to keep in touch. Originally it was through ex, but when he drifted away from the girls they stepped in.

I'm glad now I encouraged the kids to keep up the phone and text contact because it meant that whilst ex drifted out of the their lives (his choice) the wider family didn't

MadamBatty · 05/05/2020 22:31

for all those saying OP should buy if ex gives her the money? Why the feck would she waste her time & energy doing this. Why would she waste her time & energy waiting for the fecker to hand over the money.

He’s a grown man, he can buy for his own family.

the mil is cheeky. The SIL cheekier still. Gift buying is optional.

women have no special gene that make them the default gift buyers.

What are we teaching children about equality? We’re all equal but women must do the gift buying.

RandomMess · 05/05/2020 22:32

If you stripped back buying for grandparents and DN under 18 how many people is that?

It could be token gifts anyway, it is the thought that counts...

How hard is Ex-SIL trying to maintain a relationship with your DC?

It's clear his parents are decent but I wonder if all their DC act so indulged as your ex?

Eddielzzard · 05/05/2020 22:34

So now there's ex-wife-work too!! I'm sure they're lovely, but getting you to cover up for what a shit he is isn't fair. I think they know this really, but are hoping that as you've been such a good egg so far, you'll carry on. Sad situation. They need to face up to the fact that their DS is not someone they're proud of. Must hurt like hell.

foodandwine89 · 05/05/2020 22:34

I don't know anyone who buys and send presents for aunties and cousins for every bday. Honestly, most people may buy for their own sibling and that's it. It all sounds very over the top anyway.

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