Why are so many threads being deleted if anyone dares says anything about China?

[suzilady]

No rasist comments please . I think so many posters are trying to express their opinion about the changes going forward that need to be made by Chinese goverment or laws being inroduced on welfare and hygiene standards in China...or they may think The World Health Organization needs to adapt ....etc . Its really frustrating that if anyone dares say what they think , the thread is removed. Surely we should be able to have a open discusson. I ask again no rasist remarks of any kind.There have been so many deleted threads recently and they have had lots of posts, so its clearly something that should be talked about.

Racism. It shouldn’t be too hard to discuss China without being racist or using racist cultural stereotypes but for some reason many posters don’t seem to be able to do that.

And I was looking for the Chinese product thread earlier, that’s why I couldn’t find it!
Maybe some of these threads end up with too many racist comments, maybe there are some Chinese sponsors behind these actions. Who knows?

@suzilady trump would undoubtedly try to claim reparations from China or something equally ridiculous. China would ignore. The western countries would be broken economically and cannot pursue. The EU has to bail out countries like Italy or Spain or China would attempt to 'colonize' them like they did with Africa.foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/31/china-isnt-helping-italy-its-waging-information-warfare/
Since those countries would be in very bad shape due to their reliance on tourism.

I hope trump doesn't do something silly like try to attack China. The US doesn't have enough money for a war. Sadly I fear that the casualties of this crisis wouldn't be the Chinese state (who might actually emerge as the superpower after all the western economies are destroyed) but ethnic Chinese living in the west (including me) who are the targets of xenophobia.

Haven't seen these threads OP but there was one about a week ago with v proactive language about British people being lazy and ignorant in the title. I see this sort of thing frequently.

Swap the word 'British' for lots of other nationalities or minority groups and it would be deleted sharpish, rightly so. The thread in question was reported many times and was allowed to remain.

It may be those threads should have been deleted but can we be consistent as least.

*provocative not proactive

@RyanBergarasTeeth
"The chinese government absolutely need to be held to account for this. Its not the first time in the last 20 years a fatal virus with similar origins has come from there. Wet markets are evil and abusive to animals both wild and domesticated and their track record of torturing and disappearing citizens who go against them is not to be ignored any longer."

Took the words straight out of my mouth.
Of course they should be held accountable, animal rights wise and humanitarian wise. It's disgusting that is has taken a world wide pandemic to highlight the horrific torture of animals and war crimes committed in China.

Desiringonlychild Thank you....another great post. Im so sorry for what this has caused for you.

Agree Nancy.

As ever it's the government not the people. The Chinese population seem to quietly go about their lives in the UK. Making no demands or in the papers.
It's very sad that all of a sudden they are being racially abused by utter senseless hooligans.

I'm not saying what I mean clearly, not one should ever be abused for anything!.

@suzilady thank you. I just hope Brits know the difference between ethnic Chinese and the Chinese government..also have they considered that many Chinese citizens left China for the UK because the regime treated them terribly or they didn't agree with living under a dictatorship. I.e. ai Wei Wei who suffered physical torture in the hands of the Chinese government and now lives in Cambridge with his wife and child.

Because the threads I’ve seen so far blame Chinese people rather than the Chinese government. Live markets need to end and the government clearly needs to up their food hygiene laws but you can’t blame an entire population (let’s not forget an eighth of the world lives in China). They do inevitably turn into systematic racism, that’s why they get deleted.

I hope MN aren’t deleting all the China threads.

China is waging a big PR war at the moment to try to encourage any criticism of China to be seen as ‘racist’. Do not fall for this faux woke crap.

China must not escape criticism for human right abuse. For animal abuse. For the economic imperialism of Africa. For the treatment of Hong Kong. It is not racist to call out China on this.

'Zoom' and China...

@PersonaNonGarter at least when you talk about HK, Chinese people know that it's against the system not all Chinese people in general, including those whose ancestors left mainland China 100 years ago. The distinction is often not clear.

I think the guardian articles on Chinese people facing racism are genuine as I have been on the receiving end. Also the Singaporean guy who got beaten up at Tottenham court road.

I didn't know china has been using its PR machine to defend overseas Chinese in the west, my impression was that they were trying to portray themselves as some sort of saviour of Italy and Africa. They are dreadful at PR anyway. The way China would get away with this is their economic power. They own so much American debt. And British debt.

China must not escape criticism for human right abuse. For animal abuse. For the economic imperialism of Africa. For the treatment of Hong Kong. It is not racist to call out China on this.

It is rank hypocrisy if anyone from Britain does so, however.

Take every single head and the UK is humming, "Anything you can do, I can do better..."

Any time you delve even slightly to British behaviour overseas, such a treat awaits you.

"Last year, declassified files revealed that Britain even pressured Portugal repeatedly not to grant rights to citizens of Macau before it handed the region back to China, fearing that it would increase the pressure to grant Hong Kong similar rights."

www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/02/hong-kong-protests-calls-grow-to-give-citizens-right-to-live-and-work-in-uk

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