In saying that holidays abroad should be minimised?

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DH is Swedish and still has family abroad which we go and see three times a year during school holidays and half terms. This year, we have only been once in the February half term and have decided not to go back to visit his family even once travel is up and running. I keep reading reports of some countries like Spain and Italy going to open up its tourism sector but socially distance whereas Argentina is closing its borders to tourists until September. Personally I do not want to risk catching something on holiday, it’s the last place I would as I wouldn’t want to strain the healthcare of the country I am visiting temporarily.

I get that some countries do live off tourism, but what would make people want to go on holiday abroad with strict social distancing regulations that are likely to be costly to business and operators? Would love to hear your thoughts, personally DH and I have said that our abroad holidays will be postponed till some normality has arisen but that will be a long time yet, we may ‘holiday’ in the UK instead but very unlikely. It’s going to be hard yet to open up a large tourism sector when schools and workplaces will have to be reformed.

You won't get me going anytime soon, and I'm supposed to be going to India with family to visit family.
I wouldn't even go to a European destination this year, at least.
YANBU, there will no doubt be people who go as soon as they can, but that's their call.

I wouldn't go while social distancing is in place only because it wouldn't really be much fun. If and when we go back to normal then I'll be travelling again.

From a perfectly selfish point of view, I want to be able to resume normality in terms of going on holiday ASAP, but I understand why this won’t be the case for some time.

No one really wants to travel atm, so they don’t really need to be minimised. Some people will have to travel before a vaccine is found.
I don’t really want to live in a society where I have to overly justify why I do anything legal.

I've resigned myself to the fact that we won't be going abroad this year but am fully intending to go next year. So many places rely on tourism and the economic effect of that not happening this year will be catastrophic, not only for them but so many other sectors; hospitality, travel etc.

We have lots of family abroad and we were meant to be going to the Netherlands in September.

I don't want to travel with social distancing though, it sounds so depressing and that includes in the UK.

@towne2 I am, what I mean in my OP is people going on actual holiday so not visiting their family abroad but actually holidaying. I’ve seen several Facebook posts from people who have decided to book holidays abroad as soon as they open up.

After a cancelled trip to Spain in April, and a probable cancelled holiday in July (UK based, but I'm becoming more unwilling to go as time goes on) I'm resigned to not holidaying this year.

Next year though, I'll certainly be travelling, both abroad and in the UK.

What’s the issue if things are open as usual? Depends what social distancing means- more space on planes? I’m in!

Personally I can’t wait to go on holiday although I would never go anywhere without health insurance, and probably nowhere with substandard healthcare at the moment.

My family are in South America. We were supposed to visit in Aug, but will delay good few months after. They have handled the lockdown better than the UK in many respects, so I would be more worried that I would be taking a bug into their country.

I think foreign travel will be one of those things which only those who have money will be able to afford.

The airline industry is in big trouble, added to which they are talking about only being able to fill planes two thirds full for the time being because of social distancing and that is going to push prices up to the max.

Even if those restrictions are relaxed it’s going to take a long time to recover the industry and in the meantime most won’t be able to afford to travel extensively.

IMO the budget airline will be a thing of the past.

And getting travel insurance which contains cover if you catch COVID just won’t be possible, and for people with underlying conditions getting insurance at all will be difficult if not impossible,bearing in mind that COVID will cause existing underlying conditions to worsen.

I had some flights cancelled and have rearranged them for feb 2021. It is to visit family so as long as we can go we will. As for holidays generally I love my holidays is what most of my disposable income goes on. So as soon as we can go again I will!

Depends what social distancing means- more space on planes? I’m in!

Social distancing on a plane won't work! One person ill on a plane is going to infect everyone through the recycled air anyway so there's no point being 2m away from anyone there

I think travelling overseas on a holiday to visit family who live there is slightly different from just a holiday.

I’ve seen several Facebook posts from people who have decided to book holidays abroad as soon as they open up.

And? Their choice. Personally I am DESPERATE for a holiday. Should have been away in October but Thomas Cook went under. Should have had a week in the Highlands at Easter but Covid put paid to that. Should have been going to Florida in 6 weeks, that's been cancelled too.

So yes, we'll be booking when things start getting back to normal.

Once lockdown ends then it becomes up to individuals to make their choices.

Personally people who plan on jetting off and travelling all over for holidays the second lockdown ends are either silly enough to think the risk magically drops, or they are highly likely to have been selective in their lockdown to begin with.

there are no plans in spain to open the borders only other people from spain. they've already said it won't be happening intil the end of the year at least, the bars and restaurants opening with social distancing are for locals only.
why would anyone want to risk getting a flight just now, even if it was a possibility?

I think that lots of people will start holidaying again when given the off. Desperate for holidays, as some people are, they will probably just put up with any so called restrictions in another country.. Being stuck in an aircraft would right on put me off going anywhere now.

I'm desperate for a holiday anywhere at this point. Holidays are important to our family. We tend to stick with European holidays but had booked a holiday to Florida for August. We're fairly certain this will be cancelled, but if it isn't and things are open to a point where our planned holiday would be relatively unchanged, we'll probably still go.
I don't understand the people who say they'll not travel until there is a vaccine, unless I've missed the part where we've been told that there is a 100% guarantee of there being a vaccine to this virus.

I don't think it's going to be possible until holiday insurance including health cover for covid is available. Which may well not be until there is a vaccine and/or a treatment

People will be able to travel but there will be restrictions. A travel expert on the radio suggested that people will be required to self isolate for 14 days on arrival, there will be temp/health checks at airport, travellers must wear face coverings and tickets will be more expensive due to social distancing. Personally I will give foreign travel a miss for a couple of years (not least because money will be more tight) I understand that people with family abroad will not want to do this.

Well, I think that if people are going to start going abroad as soon as they can, then the government shouldn’t be responsible for bringing them home if a second wave hits. It’s not like the first time when some had no choice but to go because otherwise they risked losing the money, or where some were already abroad. People know the risks now, so if they choose to take them then they should do so at their own risk,not with the expectation that the taxpayer will bail them out.

You can think what you like. And decide what you like. Those who have family or whose living relies on travel abroad should be allowed to make their own choices accordingly.