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Will you be sending your child on 'June 1st'

553 replies

Emcont · 03/05/2020 09:53

I've done this in AIBU for the voting feature. IF (and a big IF) schools go back on June 1st, will you be sending yours?

YABU - NO

YANBU - YES

OP posts:
SpokeTooSoon · 03/05/2020 13:35

Yes, definitely OP. It’s the best place for them. We’ve managed home learning quite well and I’ve enjoyed having them around but I think it will be great for them to see their friends and enjoy a month or so of school before the long summer break.

You can’t hide from a virus forever. The vulnerable/neurotic will have to do as they please and let everyone else get back to normal.

Biscuit0110 · 03/05/2020 13:36

hob well said

MuddlingMackem · 03/05/2020 13:36

ChrissieKeller61
All of which is a waste of time. You are mixing households by opening schools. If you do that the pubs hotels etc may as well open

Of course it's not a waste of time.

Yes, you are mixing households by opening schools, but you don't then need to spread it between schools as well.

This is why we ended up with a lockdown and schools closed, because people wouldn't follow the social distancing advice.

If opening everything increases the spread risk to 100% but only opening schools and keeping all other measures in place only increases the risk by say 40%,. then of course they're not a waste of time, are they?

iamapixie · 03/05/2020 13:36

Absolutely, DC going back as soon as allowed.

Fromthebirdsnest · 03/05/2020 13:36

Not a chance , we are private so fines wont be applicable , I'm shielding and I putting my self at risk x

Nonnymum · 03/05/2020 13:37

I think it's too early. It's not the risk to the children as such but the risk to people who work on schools and to parents/carers St drop off and pick up. It will be impossible to socially distance at many schools. Usually at my GCs school there is a mass of parents all crowded together in a very smsll space at pick up time.

Biscuit0110 · 03/05/2020 13:37

from your choice.

SallyWD · 03/05/2020 13:37

Yes I will. Sadly the virus wont just disappear and we can't hide forever.

OneandTwenty · 03/05/2020 13:37

You are mixing households by opening schools. If you do that the pubs hotels etc may as well open

exactly. That's why the whole thing is utter nonsense. Once the kids are at school, no point to limit contact - and people won't bother anymore anyway. Why should they.

catgirl1976 · 03/05/2020 13:38

No. I won't be. I will wait and see

OneandTwenty · 03/05/2020 13:40

Yes, you are mixing households by opening schools, but you don't then need to spread it between schools as well

you do know that children from the same family don't all go to the same school, do you? And that teachers have their own children in other schools.. kids take public transport to go to school, and so on.
It's not a scenario of a quarantined village opening the school within their bubble and only accepting kids from the same bubble.

If you want to increase the spread, go for it, there are much better ways than opening schools.

Biscuit0110 · 03/05/2020 13:42

middle Good point, the article pointed out that any hot spots will be addressed by a lockdown being imposed again. It will be an option open to government to keep control of the R factor and protect certain areas that see flares. It is a good idea, we can't shut down the whole country every time a hot spot appears.

Margo34 · 03/05/2020 13:43

So many factors will play a role in determining whether schools will reopen and the number of pupils they'll be able to accept at the start. You may choose to keep them off but it might well end up that you can't choose to send them in either, as legally the school might not be able to keep them safe.

I am a teacher, I am in the vulnerable category. I have colleagues who are also extremely vulnerable and others who are living with people in both categories. Our Head has been so supportive and has kept us all off the childcare provision rota and working from home for these reasons and on local authority advice. Those staff in good health/not vulnerable and not living with vulnerable people makes up 46% of the whole staff team.

My school does not currently employ a cleaner, either as they retired just before lockdown and school hasn't been able to recruit a replacement (would you send your children in, knowing this?).

My classroom has only enough chairs and tables to seat 24 out of 30 children within the room (so we already spill into the corridor and wider school environment for working space) regardless of lockdown. This would make social distancing completely impossible unless class size was significantly reduced. The rest of the school is the same. Our outdoor space is very, very limited as an inner city school too, so that isn't an option either.

As much as parents may well like to send their children back in to schools as soon as they potentially reopen, the decision may well be out of your hands.

MinkowskisButterfly · 03/05/2020 13:43

I'm actually torn. I think as much as it has done dd2 good (ASD, struggled immensely with school, in reception) I also think it might be good for her to see her teachers and be able to gave that readjustment back and meet next years teachers. However, we have a vulnerable person in out house (not bad enough for shielding) and we may have to use public transport to get their (currently using an insurance vehicle). Inreally don't know what I will do if it is optional return.

Bluntness100 · 03/05/2020 13:46

Don’t be daft, primary kids aren’t super spreaders and barely get ill. Their parents are usually in the age range of people with a very very low fatality rate. If those parents manage social distancing then they won’t pass it on to older or vulnerable people, who have a higher chance of getting ill. As such, it’s manageable and won’t breach the nhs.

If those parents said fuck it, and started spreading it to everyone, then yes, we would all be fucked.

I can’t believe anyone after all the media attention doesn’t understand that.

Isleepinahedgefund · 03/05/2020 13:46

My DD needs to go back to school - she’s really suffering without the structure and her friends. She will be back the second they let her!

Biscuit0110 · 03/05/2020 13:47

margo and this will be the case in a year's time, the HM will produce a plan that works for the whole school and rotate the children I imagine. Many children will stay at home (33% according to this vote) so less teachers needed. Perhaps those that are vulnerable will run on line classes for the vulnerable children at home?

The government needs to restart the economy, the school announcement will come on Thursday. We can't keep children out of school for six months, it will be horrendous for them at every level, so a June return is sensible, if we see a spike then the summer holidays are very soon after, and the schools will naturally close again. It is good plan.

Lemonblast · 03/05/2020 13:47

Biscuit can you provide the link regarding the 1.5m distance please?

ChrissieKeller61 · 03/05/2020 13:47

@Bluntness100 I think we had it and I assure you my child was ill.

EducatingArti · 03/05/2020 13:47

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/03/uk-lockdown-must-not-be-lifted-until-covid-19-transmission-is-understood-say-scientists

Interesting article that makes June 1st less likely I think.

TheMamaYo · 03/05/2020 13:47

Very reluctantly, yes. I’d rather keep them home as I am still really worried. I know that won’t be fair to them though.

cantory · 03/05/2020 13:49

@Bluntness100 So do you agree then that any parent who is vulnerable i.e. needs a flu jab, or is over 50, should not send their kids back to school?

Stellamboscha · 03/05/2020 13:49

YANBU

coronabeer23 · 03/05/2020 13:51

The last I read, 9 children and teens under 20 have died from this virus. With those numbers in mind, I do not believe that my healthy DS is at risk going to school. He will be at risk though if I lose my job as the only earner in the house.

Correct. People’s objection to not sending healthy children back to school because of the risk to that child’s health isn’t sensible. The healthy child themselves is at almost no risk of being seriously ill. Of course the risk within the wider family may have a bearing, that’s fair enough but most children themselves are perfectly safe to be in school.

The only way to get through this is to allow those for whom it is safe to be in school work to do so and those whose family circumstances dictate there is an increased risk to continue to shelter. It’s not about eradicating the disease which does remain Manageable in MOST cases but to protect those who need to be protected and to manage NHS resources. Those families who are low risk need to be out there helping to get the economy and society moving again

Biscuit0110 · 03/05/2020 13:54

I don't know if anyone else can find it and link it for you, but I can't find the today's Times on line, so if you want to read all about it (and there are lots and lots of articles covering every detail of the plans) then you need to get a copy or download on Kindle.