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Will you be sending your child on 'June 1st'

553 replies

Emcont · 03/05/2020 09:53

I've done this in AIBU for the voting feature. IF (and a big IF) schools go back on June 1st, will you be sending yours?

YABU - NO

YANBU - YES

OP posts:
Clockworkprincess · 03/05/2020 13:10

We let ds4 stay in nursery until they shut and all through they were encouraging handwashing and plenty of outdoor time so the children were more likely to have room. He's in a small nursery anyway and we will probably send him back if they reopen. We're educating quite well at home he's actually gone massively ahead of where he needs to be but in terms of behaviour he's regressed. More likely to have tantrums, sobbing for no reason and naughtiness because he's not got any peer association apart from video calling his cousin. Its not just the education and childcare aspect as that won't be an issue for us but the social and mental health.

Howaboutanewname · 03/05/2020 13:11

@LycraLovingLass. Type 1 itself is supposedly not a risk factor although there seems to be an acknowledgement that Type 1s should socially distance. My Type 1 child is also asthmatic (moderately so) and is also Year 6 so if we are back on 1st June, he will not be going in everyday. I teach part time (which I am guessing is going to increase our exposure risk as a family anyway) and I have a year 11 child at home so they will stay together when I am working. I will let him do transition days as well. Our DSN is very non-commital - just refers us to the charity websites if we ask the ‘should he be in school’ questions!

Biscuit0110 · 03/05/2020 13:12

Yes of course, they need to go back ASAP! They have already lost so much time, and can not wait to be back with teachers and friends.

The risk is so low to children, I feel relaxed about my children returning.

Biscuit0110 · 03/05/2020 13:14

September coronavirus will still be here.
December coronavirus will still be here.
Next spring coronavirus will still be here
Maybe even well beyond that, so we need to learn to live with it. It is as simple as that.

Biscuit0110 · 03/05/2020 13:15

It is also in the Times today, and school reopening (phased) will be announced on Thursday

tiredanddangerous · 03/05/2020 13:16

The risk is so low to children, I feel relaxed about my children returning

It’s not about the risk to children though, it’s about the risk of them passing it on to people who are vulnerable.

I’m guessing all of you on this thread who are fine about sending your dc back to school en mass don’t have anyone vulnerable in your households?

tootiredtoconga · 03/05/2020 13:16

*You can't realistically say mass gatherings are banned if schools are open- school is a mass gathering.

You quite clearly can*

Well, you can say it I suppose but people are very unlikely to comply.

middleager · 03/05/2020 13:17

It is also in the Times today, and school reopening (phased) will be announced on Thursday

We'll see...

Teateaandmoretea · 03/05/2020 13:18

Well, you can say it I suppose but people are very unlikely to comply.

In terms of mass gatherings they are generally organised for a start and are pop concerts, sporting events etc. The police would have the power to disperse people.

cornish009 · 03/05/2020 13:21

Of course I will and anyone who doesn’t is seriously screwing the economy and destroying the country. It’s hysteria pure and simple

No, because my husband is in the shielding group. So although I am seriously screwing the economy and destroying the country, the children could not return from school without risking my husband's life. Oh and I am obviously hysterical also.

eldeeno · 03/05/2020 13:22

Can't vote as I'm on the app, but no my child won't be going back in June if schools reopen.

I'm a teacher, so I'll have to go back, but my DD is on the vulnerable list. Her guidance is strict social distancing / shielding at our discretion. So I don't think we'd send her back. DH will continue to work from home to keep an eye on her, but I don't know how I'd keep separate from her in our tiny 3 bed, 1 bathroom house. Might consider moving out of home if I need to.

Pinkandpurplehairedlady · 03/05/2020 13:24

My two will be going back. They need the routine and structure of school.

tootiredtoconga · 03/05/2020 13:24

It is also in the Times today, and school reopening (phased) will be announced on Thursday

Please can you link to the Times article where it claims schools are reopening in June? I've just looked and I can't see it.

Biscuit0110 · 03/05/2020 13:24

It’s not about the risk to children though, it’s about the risk of them passing it on to people who are vulnerable

Tired The at risk group and older people need to remain cocooned, the risk is minimal to everyone else. We can't all stay indoors indefinitely, as the economy is already tanking, and we will run out of money to pay for anything. I am amazed so many believe there is a money tree paying for all of this. We are already in debt to the tune of trillions, back to the same levels of world war two, so if you still want hospitals and welfare, and infrastructure we all need to get back to work, sooner the better, as carefully as possible. Those that can work from home should do so, those that can avoid public transport should do so etc etc.

There is also a very interesting article in the same paper suggesting the government may choose to remove or reduce social distancing, so for the distance to be 1.5 metres in line with Europe or even less or to be removed. There is some scientific evidence to suggest that distance is less important than first thought.

MuddlingMackem · 03/05/2020 13:26

Schools probably will have to go back first, but it may be better if they only do mornings, so they can make masks compulsory and the kids come home to eat.

Even once schools return we can still keep other social distancing measures in place, eg work from home if you can, keep the set up in shops ongoing, no out of school activities so you are not mixing kids from different schools socially.

If viable keep pubs and restaurants, hotels, etc closed for another few weeks to reduce the social distancing opportunities.

By reopening schools we may risk increasing the transmission rate, but if other social distancing measures are maintained where possible and enforced it could keep it sufficiently under 1 to prevent a problem.

TabbyStar · 03/05/2020 13:28

The Times article mentioning Gavin Williamson's announcement submit about schools was in Wednesday's Times, I couldn't do a share token earlier but I clicked through via the Whack A Mole (!) article those morning.

ChrissieKeller61 · 03/05/2020 13:29

Even once schools return we can still keep other social distancing measures in place, eg work from home if you can, keep the set up in shops ongoing, no out of school activities so you are not mixing kids from different schools socially.

All of which is a waste of time. You are mixing households by opening schools. If you do that the pubs hotels etc may as well open

Biscuit0110 · 03/05/2020 13:30

It is not on line so I can't link it, but if you look at the actual Times newspaper the article is on the front page!!
'free healthy over-70s from lockdown, say doctors'
The article outlines government plans ahead of Thursday's announcement for schools to reopen in June.

mamasiz · 03/05/2020 13:30

Little one is in nursery. I’m assuming it will open at the same time as schools. Unfortunately he won’t be going in until this is dealt with - I’m on the vulnerable list and he has a respiratory illness. I’m on mat leave shortly so he’ll be with me. It’s upsetting as he loves nursery and I won’t be able to spend some 1:1 time with our new baby in the same way I had with my first, but I need to keep my family safe and I don’t trust the government to do that job for me so I’ll make my own decisions.

GarlicSoup · 03/05/2020 13:32

No

Bluntness100 · 03/05/2020 13:32

people should also realise that reopening schools too soon will only mean a peak and the need for another lockdown... maybe a real lockdown in this country, who knows

Which is guaranteed in September, with the start of flu season making it even worse, due to less nhs capacity. The only option is to let people continue to get it through the summer and gain some immunity before the start of flu season or we really will be in a mess.

hobnobsaremyfavourite · 03/05/2020 13:32

I will be sending my children back when their schools reopen and my DH will be back teaching in his normal post
He is already working to keep the schools open for key workers
I also work outside the home
We will be cracking on with life whilst doing what we can to be sensible and pragmatic with any guidelines
Don't send your kids if you don't want to
Stay at home till whenever
Your choice
Mine will be to send mine back and to accept that my husband will be teaching whoever is there

Biscuit0110 · 03/05/2020 13:34

Yes if the second wave comes in December (which the latest modelling now shows) when the NHS is already so busy with winter flu, we will be completely screwed.

middleager · 03/05/2020 13:34

The at risk group and older people need to remain cocooned, the risk is minimal to everyone else.

Is this true? 95% of my son's inner city secondary in a CV hotspot are BAME. Lots of his classmates live with multi generational families.

Most of the teaching staff are BAME.

Just as concern has been expressed over frontline BAME workers, I'd like to see more research first into this area too.

OneandTwenty · 03/05/2020 13:34

You can't realistically say mass gatherings are banned if schools are open- school is a mass gathering.

You quite clearly can Hmm

You can say - or write - anything you want, it doesn't make it any less nonsense.
I love it when a poster is stubbornly trying to annoy everybody else like you are GrinGrin

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