AIBU to ask English people not to say poorly?! (lighthearted)

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It sounds a bit moany and weak. Can't get to grips with grown women saying their husband was poorly. It would be like saying my husband took a week off work because he had a bubu. I know we all have our own slang and some Irish slang probably sounds strange outside of Ireland in the next village

I am not speaking on behalf of everybody outside of England, I do realise this.

And full disclaimer, the word dodi makes me wince. I have done my best to eradicate that word. Service to my country.

As you pronounce them, do the words farm and palm rhyme?
@chandleristhebestfriend do they? Anyone explain how they don't?

In Sheffield they say 'badly'.

I'll never forget my first job in HR admin in a factory there, one of the absence slips gave reason for absence as 'Beer Badly '!!

One has a letter R, @SleepingStandingUp.

If you have a rhotic accent then farm and palm do not rhyme.

Also, the A sound in each is different in my accent. The silent L yields a long 'ah' sound.

Ahhhhhhhhhh I hate poorly too!!!!! It’s sick or ill. Not feckin’ ‘poorly’.

And back home, I hate day-day!!!

How does but not rhyme with put.
To my ears they are both u t at the end.
So p u t and b u t

But has the same 'uh' sound as husband.
Put has the same oo sound as soot, which is not the same oo sound as moon or moot.

I'm surprised by the number of people who've never discovered the u discrepancy prior to this thread. I've had a couple of conversations about it over the years. I first discovered that some people use two types of 'u' sound when I was at uni and got mocked for saying cup 'wrongly' (for my fellow users of the singular u sound, the u sound in cup in certain accents has an inflection on it, almost like an a, as in cap, but not quite).

Put has the same oo sound as soot, which is not the same oo sound as moon or moot. I hate phonics. They e only been off school 6 weeks and I realise I could never teach phonics. Also realise what a bugger it must be teaching it anywhere with a string accent

English doesn't lend itself to phonics at all. I have had many a ding dong here with phonics zealots who insist it does and is essential to the teaching of reading.

I hate phonics. They e only been off school 6 weeks and I realise I could never teach phonics. Also realise what a bugger it must be teaching it anywhere with a string accent

Or any accent at all. I couldn't teach phonics in the south, I don't use the drawl on the a or the second u and wouldn't know which words they belong in.

The worst is when you've got a class where the majority don't speak English at home- the kids end up with a right mishmash of pronunciations depending on which teacher taught them a specific word and what that teacher's accent is (or they might say it in an American accent from YouTube).

DH and I both teach phonics.
DH is from the midlands. I am from the south.
The scheme we both use says that ‘put’ is an exception word as you can’t sound it out like you can with ‘cup’ or ‘sun’ for example.
DH and I have many an argument about this. He simply cannot hear that in my, and the local, accent ‘put’ has a different ‘u’ sound.
To him ‘u’ is the same sound in all simple words.

I work in healthcare in northern England, here it a patient is described as 'very poorly' it means they are at deaths door.

Never heard put as taught as an exception word and I've taught phonics.
Always been taught to sound out as p u t.

The same as sounding out cat or dog etc.

Always been taught to sound out as p u t.

That only works if you pronounce it the same as C U T or B U T. Many do not.

english as foreign language teaches 'but' to almost rhyme with 'butt'

The great thing about the English language is that a lot of words can often mean the same thing.
Use whatever word you like to describe a poorly, sick, or Ill person.

I'll do what I like, if that's alright with you?

I'm so glad I didn't have to learn English as a foreign language 😂

'but' to almost rhyme with 'butt'
Erm.... they do

I agree. It’s all a bit cringey and pathetic

Dodi doesn’t bother me so much

Since this thread, I’ve been more conscious of the word ‘poorly’ and notice I use it as the default term for being off work with covid, feeling under the weather, having a headache etc. It’s my go to term for feeling ill.
Sorry, I’m not going to stop using it on the say so of an anomalous person on the Internet.

poorly, poorly, poorly, poorly, poorly, poorly, poorly, poorly, poorly, poorly

Thank you for the compliment @standrewsschool

Yes, but and butt rhyme.

Neither rhymes with put.

You can sound it out, emilybrontescorsett, in the sense that it's a cvc word. But it has a U sound that isn't the same as that of 'but'.

It's a sight word/dolch word in the US.

The OP wasn't anomalous at all

Lots of people agreed

That was for. Standrewschool

pronunciationcoach.blog/2012/12/07/the-sounds-of-u/

So remember, it is very rare to find the letter “U” pronounced with something other than these three basic sounds. There is a handful of words with a “U” pronounced as Short-oo: sugar / put / push / puss / pull / full / bull / cushion. There are also two words with a very unusual pronunciation, “busy” and “business”. In these two words the “U” has a Short-i sound! Otherwise, when you see the letter “U” in a word, it will almost always have the sound of either Long-U-1, Long-U-2, or Short-u (Schwa).