AIBU to ask English people not to say poorly?! (lighthearted)

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It sounds a bit moany and weak. Can't get to grips with grown women saying their husband was poorly. It would be like saying my husband took a week off work because he had a bubu. I know we all have our own slang and some Irish slang probably sounds strange outside of Ireland in the next village

I am not speaking on behalf of everybody outside of England, I do realise this.

And full disclaimer, the word dodi makes me wince. I have done my best to eradicate that word. Service to my country.

I don't get it Crunchymum

Surely there's only one way to pronounce that. And it's not particularly childish is it?

Is it just the shortening you resent Crunchy?

I pick up accents, well accent radiation, quite quickly so if I've been videocalling my uni friends I come off with a northern twange, if I've been visiting my friends down south I come back with a posher twang etc. But apparently I say "colour" northern and now my 4 yo who's only been in the Midlands or coastal Wales says colour the way I do mwhahahaha 🤣🤣. Its funny how certain sounds or words stick

Always imagined with the down turned mouth.

I find this thread brilliant and am fascinated reading the different pronunciations.

I'm from NI but live in Ireland for over 20 years and mine accent hasn't changed at all either.
We say sick for illness or been sick means you vomited. I've only heard poorly from English people I've met.

@Boohaha that is an interesting article on the pronunciation of "three". I have to say it really irrationally annoys me when people on tv prounounce 'th' as an 'f' sound. Like free for three and fink for think. I think it makes them sound a bit fick really .

It also irrationally annoys me when people say 'mammy' or 'mam' in Ireland for 'mummy' or 'mum'. But I guess we all just have our own quirks......

Don't you have a Mammy? I had a Mammy. My Mammy's Mammy was from Kildare and was a Mam, which was odd in Belfast.

We don't live in NI now. I dread having to say eight. My kids say eight in a Belfast accent. And in a posh part of England, the local bakery made little chocolate buns with a flake on them, called Flake Cakes. Try saying that in a Belfast accent, I had to point.

I hate Uni. It came from Neighbours, I am happy for Australians to say it.

No, but i cannot for the life of me ever remember anyone ever making put and but NOT rhyme

I speak in a fairly RP English way and to me, but rhymes with putt (as in golf), whereas put does not have that open 'uh' sound, more of an 'oot' as in soot (but not as in loot).

So to me, it would sound ridiculous to pronounce put as putt. I don't think I've every heard that.

I can 'hear' but rhyming with put and soot, if said in a northern English accent, where the 'u' sound is less open and half way to being an 'oo'. So but would sound half way to boot but not all the way there.

So to me, it would sound ridiculous to pronounce put as putt. I don't think I've every heard that.

Listen to Chris Evans talk. He does the same with bush too.

I say Mum too, so do my kids. Some Irish people think this is a Jackeen affectation but it is what most of my F&F say.

The mummy, mammy, mommy variation across Ireland (north and south) is a fascinating study all by itself.

The put and bush and butcher thing are over-compensations when people aren't sure. It's quite a common trap in northern England.
Alan Bennett is funny on the subject, getting caught out and then embarrassed by it.

@eggandonion I'm Belfast and had a Mummy/Mum. I live in southern Ireland and have been told only posh people say Mummy! I'm a long way from posh lol.

Not a pronunciation thing but my Welsh colleague almost died laughing when he heard me refer to an icecream cone as a 'poke'

Pokes are nice but dh loves a slider!
I'm Mammy but only in private, my kids talk about 'my mum'. DD2's boyfriend calls his mum by her first name, he's incredibly posh though.
I made scones earlier, rhyming with bonbons not bones.

@lottiegarbanzo thanks altho put and putt sound the same to me.

It's Mom here, always confused as a kid why cards said MUM. I'm a Mama tho, so no idea what that'll be when he's not 4

It's Mom here, always confused as a kid why cards said MUM.

That reminds me, my kids have never been able to buy a decent card for their grandparents because it's impossible to get cards for Granny and Granda. It's always Grandma and Grandad and no one says that here. I can't understand why the shops go through the farce of stocking the cards that say 'grandma' on them because no one seems to buy them.

I've never heard anyone say it.

@SleepingStandingUp Ok but have you ever heard a southern / RP / posh English person talk? An actor playing an English aristocrat or upper / upper middle class person? The 'u' sound is very open and nothing like an 'o' sound at all. Quite different from the 'u' sound in Ireland or northern English.

That's so interesting pp about Chris Evans (plainly northern, why bother pretending otherwise?) and Alan Bennett. I can see how that could happen!

Also, just to clarify, I think you're 'saying putt as put'. Whereas what I said would sound ridiculous (and I stand by that, even if and all the more so because Chris Evans apparrently does it) is 'saying put as putt'.

I'll say poorly if I bloody well want to, who are you, the speech police

@lottiegarbanzo yes but we never talk about golf lol. I think my brain can hear the difference if I imagine the accent but in my real life it def sounds the same. I can make tubs like giraffe and scarf rhyme even though they don't (here, in the land of Mom) but find it harder with the shorter ones

I hate Uni. It came from Neighbours, I am happy for Australians to say it

Me too!!
I nearly threw the phone out of my hands when I heard my mother utter that word. It was called 'college' in Ireland when I was at that stage of my life (80s). Thankfully that's what it's called in the US too, or my DCs might have found themselves doing plumbing apprenticeships.

I am Mommie here in the US, but I had a Mum (still do in fact) in Ireland growing up. We were the only cousins on my mother's side who used the word Mummy (it morphed into Mum) apart from my London cousins, but this was what all my cousins on my dad's side called their mothers apart from the ones whose mother was German.

My DCs never started calling me Mom. I am Ma to DS.

The U in putt rhymes with my dentist's pronunciation of tooth (tuth), and also lush, mush, crush. But not bush.

The U in put rhymes with the U in bush, push.

..i cannot for the life of me ever remember anyone ever making put and but NOT rhyme

No, they don't rhyme.

But rhymes with putt.
Put doesn't.

Here in Wales we don't say poorly either we go for "he's been bad" normally followed by a headshake and the a "oh, terrible" 🤣

Like being sick is punishable or something

I have to say that 'mum' and 'mummy' have sounded a bit wet, or maybe the word is twee, to my ears since getting used to 'mommy' and 'mom'.