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To wonder why teachers are not teaching my child?

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Nickynackienoo · 29/04/2020 10:18

I am a nurse redeployed to itu. Doing 13 hour days and stressed up to the eyeballs at the moment. My children (12 and 8) go to school on my work days and on my days off i keep them at home with me according to the government guidance. As far as I can tell, the teachers at school are just childminding and not teaching anything. How is it that they can have just 4 kids in the school and not manage to get them to do at least some work? How can I possibly do the job of a teacher on my days off? They have send so many links via email that I can’t make sense of, it’s so overly complicated. Surely as key workers they should be doing the job they are being paid to do? I must be missing something, can someone fill me in?

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ScrewBalls99 · 29/04/2020 18:05

AHH, just read GuyFawkes, it doesn't sound like they will be disadvantaged, it sounds like they are being supported op.

Silenceisnotgolden · 29/04/2020 18:08

Paid a childminder’s salary? I’m crying! 😂

Funnily enough, I’m no Maths teacher (different subject specialism FYI) but for arguments sake, let’s do a few sums.

Theoretical situation for context:
Ms Bloggs the Science teacher is in school today, teaching childminding 8 key worker children. The going rate for childcare in her area is £4 an hour. Ms Bloggs is expected to be in school on her timetabled school day from 8am to 4pm.

£4 x 8 students = £32 PER HOUR

32 x 8 = £256 PER DAY

That’s more than DOUBLE what Ms Bloggs was on as an NQT and a hell of a lot more than a Science teacher with TLR.

In conclusion, I shall be quitting my role as a teacher to childmind (no offence to Childminders, a decent one is worth their weight in gold and I couldn’t survive without mine).

Here’s your daffodils Daffodil Mrs Bloggs will happily buy all the haters a bunch each with her career-change pay rise!

GreytExpectations · 29/04/2020 18:11

If you expect people to put their lives (and their families lives) on the line to support society then surely society has a moral duty to look after them and their families in a way society doesn’t have with people who aren’t taking that risk? If a parent dies as a result of that work then the disadvantages they will suffer are much greater than can be cancelled by an extra terms teaching.

This is all well and good but still has nothing to do with my original point in saying that parents who have to work full time at home are still busy working.

Goose15 · 29/04/2020 18:11

I don't think OP was 'teacher bashing'. She was just asking a question and worrying a little bit that her children were going to be disadvantaged because of her job.

GuyFawkesDay · 29/04/2020 18:12

Tbh if someone offered me furlough I'd take it.

80% pay Vs current working hours, it's a no brainer.

Never thought I'd say that but I'm sick of being kicked constantly.

RingPiece · 29/04/2020 18:14

Surely you realise just how many people's jobs have changed. Last night there was a report about office staff helping to collect the rubbish in Bristol. I doubt that their job descriptions and salary has changed to reflect this. Things have changed. People's roles have changed. There are many other roles that teachers do other than actually standing in front of a class of children and teaching them...reports, assessments, planning to name a few. These still have to be done. Common sense and a little thought is recommended before starting tired teacher bashing threads such as this.

Piemash · 29/04/2020 18:14

Seen as though lots of childminders cannot afford to keep their businesses open, myself included, you might find you get more per hour as demand outstrips supply when lots of us don't reopen. I know it's light-hearted, but the previous 'just' childminder posts are annoying.

GreytExpectations · 29/04/2020 18:15

*Tbh if someone offered me furlough I'd take it.

80% pay Vs current working hours, it's a no brainer.*

Yes, it's really great for us to be constantly stressing that my furloughed husband may not have a job to go back to and on top of that for our household finance to take a 20% hit. You really are missing out Hmm

Saladaysior · 29/04/2020 18:17

@Silenceisnotgolden brilliant post.

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user1000000000000000001 · 29/04/2020 18:17

Our school they are doing the same set home learning tasks as those not in.

GuyFawkesDay · 29/04/2020 18:17

Yes, is your husband told daily he's shit at his job and doing nothing?

Thought not.

Really12345 · 29/04/2020 18:18

@dickensinthepark maybe read my posts and take the biscuit back. I’m a front line hcp. Lots of people off work as shielding or isolating with symptoms. We need people - young healthy people that have already had covid like me- to be in work to see patients face to face to provide physical care. I am now working from home calling patients and reviewing records because my boss saw the mess I was in about childcare. My patients will have worse health outcomes because of this because no on one will see them to examine them and take blood etc....(I did actually try to resign because i know I’m not much use at home but my boss wants to try and keep me on)

Tanith · 29/04/2020 18:19

"In conclusion, I shall be quitting my role as a teacher to childmind (no offence to Childminders, a decent one is worth their weight in gold and I couldn’t survive without mine)."

It is offensive to childminders to rehash this old and totally erroneous chestnut.

The money you quote is not a salary. Out of that money, you are expected to provide everything: resources, insurance, building, food, facilities, cleaning, training...

You also assume that all places are filled, for all hours, that everyone pays us - oh, and you can't even get the ratios right.

Piemash · 29/04/2020 18:19

Yes, is your husband told daily he's shit at his job and doing nothing?

Are people in real life saying this to you, or just on here? I mean, you can just not come on here or avoid the threads. If it's people in 'real life' then perhaps that's a problem.

OntheWaves40 · 29/04/2020 18:19

@GuyFawkesDay what do you do?

RubyViolet · 29/04/2020 18:20
Flowers Flowers Flowers
GuyFawkesDay · 29/04/2020 18:21

I'm a teacher....funnily enough.

Haven't always been.

I used to work in hushed tones "the real world"

Howaboutanewname · 29/04/2020 18:22

@Lostmyshityear9 Surely your children are on their computers accessing their home learning?

You assume a lot, don’t you? That there are enough computers in my household to go round? That the internet connection would sustain us all online at the same time on different devices? That my children have no learning difficulties or disabilities that require more than average supervision? You even assume I have regular breaks but yesterday I sat in my kitchen all day without even going to the loo. My eldest made me lunch. I spent my ‘breaks’ emailing colleagues about children I am concerned about, emailing students about work that hadn’t been completed and talking with a boy in my form who has Coronavirus (we think) and is really struggling. The job isn’t just about teaching. There is a bigger picture.

I am a single parent and receive no maintenance. All,of my children have mild learning difficulties. We have one laptop. My children are disadvantaged as a result of this pandemic but you don’t see me moaning about it or expecting special treatment.

TutorWoes · 29/04/2020 18:22

What's annoyed me is, my daughter has got an EHCP but she's not in school because her autism centre ( which is attached to the mainstream school) has closed, so no kids with EHCPs can attend. Not one member of staff has contacted me in the past 5 or 6 weeks or so to see how she's getting on. My son's teacher, bless her, has been asking after her but none of the teachers who are directly involved in her education have. What are they doing at the moment? Whilst on full pay I might add.

FrippEnos · 29/04/2020 18:23

Namenic
Cut the OP some slack.

the OP decided to poke the bear with comments about pay and what all teachers should be doing.

So for that no

However she has also apologised

so for that yes.

Aesopfable · 29/04/2020 18:23

Ms Bloggs the Science teacher is in school today, teaching childminding 8 key worker children. The going rate for childcare in her area is £4 an hour. Ms Bloggs is expected to be in school on her timetabled school day from 8am to 4pm

Is Ms Bloggs expected to provide the school premises or provide lessons within her home? Pay utility bills for the school? Her own indemnity insurance? Is she expected to pay for science kit and reagents from her salary?

You are comparing apples and oranges.

Really12345 · 29/04/2020 18:25

@CallmeAngelina some schools are not, see a post a few pages back by a TA think her name was goodvee or similar. Hubs can’t do this they have kids of different kids from different schools of different ages. Some have worksheets some need to log in to different online portals some need to watch a zoom class at different times. They aren’t computers for everyone. Some hubs are quite open that they are not facilitating children to do the home learning at all.

@saraclara I tired that, apparently the government have said they are Not allowed to do anything educational with them as this is not fair

FrippEnos · 29/04/2020 18:25

TutorWoes

What are they doing at the moment? Whilst on full pay I might add.

Here is a crazy thought

Ask.

TutorWoes · 29/04/2020 18:25

Email was sent this evening!

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