To not want a dog in shared garden?

[Dotty07]

We have a shared yard at the back of our house that is shared with 2 others neighbours. A new neighbour recently moved in and has a dog. The dog uses the garden space as a toilet, he does now pick up poo after many discussions but the dog pees everywhere and in everything. We can have anything out as he just lets it pee on whatever, including my back door!

AIBU to not want a dog using the back garden at all, it’s very small and the dog is big, is it just me?

@Dotty07

Thank you so much for that advice. I am trying to get an email together to send again today just unsure how to go about it?

I would just say 'Dear ... I am sorry to have to contact you, but this has been an issue for x amount of time now and I feel like I need to address this since this issue is ongoing. - then write the bulk of the issue. Explain the problems its causes and make sure you address everything. Finish it off with something like, once again I am sorry to bring this up but I hope we can resolve this. Kind Regards ....

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I write that as a dog owner!

They are effectively making it so you can't use the yard as it's unsanitary

Put a complaint in writing to LL and agent separately.

@RandomMess

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I write that as a dog owner!

They are effectively making it so you can't use the yard as it's unsanitary

Put a complaint in writing to LL and agent separately.

Thanks, I’ve been worried as I didn’t want it to seem like not picking as I don’t have a pet. I grew up with parents as dog owners and shared gardens with other neighbours and never had this issue.

Turns out the LL is also the agency.

Ok so if the LL is also the agency, it may be that they won't be so helpful.

So in that event I would still send a polite email, however I think you'll have to then go back with a more forceful one. So then you will have to say that you will be contacting your solicitor to look into your deeds etc. Don't be afraid to send an email like that, because they will likely have no idea what the deeds say and then they will think 'oh '. So don't back down and stand your ground.

@beckyyl

Ok so if the LL is also the agency, it may be that they won't be so helpful.

So in that event I would still send a polite email, however I think you'll have to then go back with a more forceful one. So then you will have to say that you will be contacting your solicitor to look into your deeds etc. Don't be afraid to send an email like that, because they will likely have no idea what the deeds say and then they will think 'oh '. So don't back down and stand your ground.

Thank you, I will give this a try.

I have a dog, and there's no way I'd allow him to do that in a shared space. Sounds totally unfair, because others might like to sit out there and not worry about pee and poo etc. It is disgusting.

We live in a flat also, with a shared space, and take him to the park first thing in the morning and last thing at night for toilet. If I had a private garden, I'd use the sticks which encourage them to pee in one place. It can then be washed away.

Would definitely bring it up with him, he might not realise its a problem or how much it bothers you.

Apologies I missed your updates about him harassing you, and not walking the poor dog at all. He sounds awful. Hope you get somewhere with the landlord. Sounds like he won't be reasonable whatever, and maybe it needs to be clear that the dog can't be in the shared garden. He doesn't sound like he'll ever be on board with cleaning up the mess or trying to ensure toileting only happens in one small area of the garden.

Really unpleasant man, I'm really sorry for you

I have emailed LL and will edit for a response. I do wonder if she has been in touch with neighbour though as I had him wave a bag of dog dirt at me and saying something but I couldn’t hear. Happy Days! At least he picked up.

I was very late to this conversation. Apologies for my above input. And your neighbour sounds like a dick. I hope you get it sorted. He’s the reason pet owners get a bad name and can’t rent anywhere!

@thecatsabsentcojones

These posts are what make me very happy to have the means to own my own house and garden. What next? Birds crap on gardens, do you want to cover the garden with a huge tarpaulin to prevent that? Heaven forbid a fox comes along and shits there.

Have a shared garden and you have to compromise. You can’t have ultimate control over that space. As for the dog, unless it’s aggressive which isn’t likely you could with the right attitude actually quite like it.

Typical mumsnet dog phobia.

Typical Mumsnet ‘dog-lover’ crap. A paved yard on hot day with puddles of stinking dog piss drying in the sun, and a bloody dog jumping up? Why should anyone put up with that?

It’s just very inconsiderate on your neighbours behalf, society don’t think about others around and end of the day it’s just pure laziness, as a dog owner its THEIR responsibility to walk THEIR dog these people are just too lazy to do it and but the burden is put on those around them, my upstairs neighbour lets their dog out in the garden instead of walking it and every time it comes out it does such a loud set of barking, dogs bark is normal whatever but it shouldn’t be my responsibility at 8/9am or 10/11pm literally disturbing my sleep, I actually feel your pain

zombie thread

Have you checked your freehold agreement to see if dogs are allowed?

I found a similar post on the Garden Law forum where they wanted to setup a CCTV to record the neighbour and post it to the freeholder as evidence:
www.gardenlaw.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=108977&hilit=dogs+shared+garden#p108977

Oh damn - didn't see your post 🙄😂

This is the way dog pee is left in my shared garden, at this time of year it stinks 🤢

I hose it if I catch it but I’m not always there, my neighbour never bothers to clean it.

Is there something I can do to deter the smell? Neighbour isn’t bothered nor is L/L but it’s bad, I do t even attempt to use the shared space now!

If it is a shared space and he cannot stop the dog pissing then he needs to wash off his pets piss and clean up its shit immediately. He should not be leaving a large dog unattended in a shared space so it should be no issue to make sure he cleans up after it.

Oops sorry zombie!

Doesn’t matter who owns or who rents completely irrelevant. Yabu think how many cats and foxes peee and shit everywhere in your shared garden! Aslong as he cleans up the dog shit then….and fwiw if I didn’t want to face this problem I wouldn’t buy anywhere with a shared garden. Key word here “shared”.

Not only that, what about the health implications of dog fouling. Toxicaris springs to mind.

Sorry Toxocariasis