OMFG do not go out

[Hopefulworker]

If you have a cough, as innocuous as you might think it is! Why are you out? Just walked on my daily walk for about half an hour. 3 people walking past in safe distance all coughing 🤨 what the hell is wrong with people 😞

The OP said and I quote

"Hopefulworker Fri 24-Apr-20 21:21:14
If you have a cough, as innocuous as you might think it is! Why are you out? Just walked on my daily walk for about half an hour. 3 people walking past in safe distance all coughing 🤨 what the hell is wrong with people 😞"

which is what set this thread off in the first place. So even if you have allergies/asthma, she thinks you should stay indoors.

Both my daughter and my husband have asthma. This means they cough pretty much year round for a variety of reasons.

I'll need to lock them up forever according to some batshit folk!

You'll rarely get people admitting that they don't cover their mouths, doesn't mean they always do or are effective at keeping their germs to themselves

OP never said the 'culprits' never covered their mouths when coughing, so why are you trying to put a different spin on it?

I have suspected Covid 19 - I work in a carehome with lots of cases. I am on day 6 and have no other symptoms except a cough. My GP advised me you are only infectious for 7 days from appearance of the first symptom and has commented that I can safely go back to work after 7 days if I’m feeling well and haven’t experienced an elevated temperature for 48 hours. My GP said the cough can persist for 2-3 weeks and is not a cause for concern if I am otherwise well.

@MadameTuffington

Surely that's not right? Most people in hospital have been ill for a couple of weeks, so why would there be all that flap about PPE if they aren't infectious any more?

Only if you just have a cough

Presumably in hospital its a lot of other symptoms at play

And is that right that advice?
If I was chatting away to a neighbour at 2m distance and they told me they’d been off work for 7 days with the coronavirus but they were ok now on day 8 and they were still coughing their head off..... well... I’d go home and bathe in bleach or something 😷

I'm a chronic asthmatic. I have hayfever. I constantly cough for probably eight months of the year.

I won't kill you by my coughing.

But then I'm not going outside either...

Yeah I would . If you’re coughing to the point of coughing fits in a supermarket I think you need to find another way to get food at the minute.

What other way? There are no delivery slots to be had from supermarkets for most asthmatics, only those on the strongest medications are classed as vulnerable, and people with allergies are not classed as vulnerable at all. How do you propose these people get grocery shopping if not by attending the supermarkets? A lot of people don't have family close by to help.

The cough lasting past day 7 isn’t a concern. It’s the other symptoms, especially the temperature, that mean people have to isolate longer.

BIL tested negative (after positive test and a hospital stay) two weeks ago and the cough is still bad. He’s been told to expect to be coughing for weeks

Frequency I would propose local community support groups, neighbourhood Whatsapp groups, local food delivery services that may be smaller retailers or trade suppliers and so on.

^Yeah I would . If you’re coughing to the point of coughing fits in a supermarket I think you need to find another way to get food at the minute.
I don’t think it’s a good idea for people with copd to be out shopping now anyway?^

If you can't cope with people with preexisting conditions existing, I think you need to find another way to get food at the minute.
I don’t think it’s a good idea for people with such severe intolerance and anxiety to be out shopping now anyway?

Frequency I would propose local community support groups, neighbourhood Whatsapp groups, local food delivery services that may be smaller retailers or trade suppliers and so on.

Please avail yourself of those services.

Frequency I would propose local community support groups, neighbourhood Whatsapp groups, local food delivery services that may be smaller retailers or trade suppliers and so on.

All of those things are completely dependent on where you live.

Round here the community groups are busy enough trying to deal with helping the folks who actually need to stay away from the shops without adding a raft of asthmatics, ex smokers and folks with hay fever into their workload.

I can just imagine contacting the community group and explaining I need their help as I have hay fever and some numpty on the internet has said I'm not safe to go out in case I cough in public!

Another cough variant asthmatic with hayfever checking in.

What a time to be asthmatic.

This was in relation to a person with copd.
My neighbour has copd and is on the shielding list anyway.

I don’t think you’re not safe to go out but perhaps keep it to a minimum and wear a mask?

That's why masks would be effective atm.

Absolutely not in the circumstance you're describing. Utterly ridiculous. Many people with conditions such as hayfever, asthma, COPD or taking certain medications, will have chronic coughs. Of course they are allowed to leave their house.

As there's nothing wrong with me apart from hay fever and acid reflux I'll carry on as before if it's all the same to you. As people like you appear to be in a minority I won't be hiding away any time soon.

(And I'll wear a mask if they become compulsory)

According to this thread 20-30% of the population have conditions which make them cough or sneeze frequently. So that's 20-30% who, if they contract CV, have a higher chance of passing it on than people without coughs and sneezes. But it's somehow wrong to think they shouldn't be in supermarkets or near other people if there is any other option?
We are keeping children home from school because as a group they are more likely to pass it on. You don't see kids routinely in supermarkets now. I don't see that this is different.
It's really hard to shield your face so effectively that you don't spray germs across 2m or more. I'm doubtful that you all are as sage as you think you are.

Sage = safe

@MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously you clearly are anxious about this and more so than the average person if you are this concerned about asymptomatic spread of Coronavirus at time when R is seen to be below 1

If you are shopping and touching things you are a risk if you are asymptomatic of spreading it full stop.

ANd officially yes you can go out with a CV cough after a certain amount of time

I doubt you are as safe as you think you are - do you truly take precautions so that there is no spread from you

I wear a mask while shopping and I buy what I touch. I do my very best to maintain distance in supermarkets, but that isn't always in my control. I don't think I'm safe, I don't think any of us are.
I don't know how my anxiety compares to other people's - some people don't worry as much as they should and it's making lockdown less effective