Page 7 | To think this petition is actually ridiculous?

Tjsmumma · 21/04/2020 21:18

I domt think personally extra time is needed but, it is beneficial for babies to interact with other people, just being stuck wkth mum builds a strong attachment which of course is needed but, they then struggle to leave if they have also had no other interactions with others as well, this is proven in many a case study/theories

Maryann1975 · 21/04/2020 21:19

@MumofBees Some babies will basically never have been around anyone but there parents, and then will be thrust into nursery as soon as they open as the primary parent needs to return to work. Which seems a bit cruel
So really, the parent needs to take an extra week or two off work when childcare settings return back, so the baby can have a Couple of settling in sessions and a Phased start into childcare (eg, an hour on the first day, a couple of hours on the second and third, half a day on the forth and fifth and build it up). It’s not ideal, but would be far better than some get.

I’m a childminder and have had dc start with me who have never, ever left their mothers and have coped fine. Other babies who have spent lots of time around extended family and family friends and cried and cried and cried.

For anyone newly pregnant, this shows how important it is not to leave choosing childcare to the last minute. I’ve got an unborn baby pencilled in to start next April. Whilst I haven’t taken a deposit till the baby is born, we have had several chats and if I hadn’t been closed they were coming to have a look round at the start of April. The baby I should have started with mid April this year paid a deposit and booked in last September. It’s definitely something to be organised with.

Theyweretheworstoftimes · 21/04/2020 21:21

Bloody hell, this would be my worst nightmare.... I had horrific PND and PTSD I went back as soon as possible.

I thought the point of Mat leave was to recover from giving birth?

Maybe that's what I was doing wrong.....

Gruffawoah · 21/04/2020 21:24

Some babies will basically never have been around anyone but there parents, and then will be thrust into nursery as soon as they open as the primary parent needs to return to work. Which seems a bit cruel.

There are far, far more cruel things that happen to babies around the world and they survive. Honestly, babies don't really give a crap!

Imboredinthehouse · 21/04/2020 21:26

anyone else thinking maybe op has just discovered a very smart way of getting a load of (entitled) MN’s to sign a petition they’ve started?

Chemo for people who will die without it has been cancelled but women who had a baby are way more deserving of an extra 3 months

HedgehogHotel · 21/04/2020 21:29

The sense of entitlement is strong in the whingers.

You couldn't make it up. Honestly.

Frazzled2207 · 21/04/2020 21:29

It is ridiculous but not as ridiculous as the other one, by a mumsnetter I believe, about asking journalists to stop asking ministers questions during the virus so that they can get on with their job.

nildesparandum · 21/04/2020 21:30

Well well well I have certainly had my education finished now!

So baby bonding classes are so essential to being a perfect mother.
How did I manage to be a mother then?.My two are now middle aged, yes I am that old, one of them is now a grandfathe
in this present situation when the economy and the NHS are being crippled as never before it is unbelievable that there are people wanting extensions to paid maternity leave to make up for the time they missed ''bonding''
We do not know yet when this lockdown is going to end.At the worst it could be a few years so your baby could then be starting school and will certainly be able to bond then.
Some have no paid work now either.

Thisismytimetoshine · 21/04/2020 21:31

I hope it's treated with the derision it deserves.

NaNaNaNaNaNaBaNaNa · 21/04/2020 21:40

Would rather give those extra weeks to parents whose baby spends the first few weeks of their life in an incubator in the neonatal unit. Fathers who have to go back to work before they've even been able to take their babies home; mothers who spend weeks sat beside their babies day and night in the hospital.

They are the people who have really "missed out" on their maternity/paternity leave IMO.

ThrowingGoodAfterBad · 21/04/2020 21:42

Not only do I think it is ridiculous I am concerned about the impact it will have for women generally. Maternity leave is necessary, women having children is natural and a necessity and we are having enough trouble defending plain women's rights at the moment without this kind of stupidity.

If there was a legitimate legal concern about, e.g. if someone ends up going officially back to work after maternity leave in the middle of lockdown are they going to be more vulnerable to dismissal, that's one thing. People who are basically looking to take advantage because they haven't played with their friends enough is pathetic. Whenever people start getting this upset about their social lives all I think is that they haven't had enough real concerns to worry them.

Worriedmum54321 · 21/04/2020 21:43

Babies under 3 months are probably better off without these groups anyway (and for those under 6 months they are unlikely to be beneficial. It's a shame for mums though. Although, you can already get 9 months paid, and this is probably going to be taking about 2-3 months so there will still be time to do things afterwards.
Unfortunately the best baby groups seem to be run by elderly ladies so they might not start up again for a while

MartiniDry · 21/04/2020 22:30

The petition is beyond ridiculous. It's gone past crazy without even stopping and is now at absolutely fucking batshit.

Noconceptofnormal · 21/04/2020 22:48

If we end up in a really bad recession / depression as a result of this virus I wonder whether any of those 70k people will start to feel a bit silly for worrying about the fact they didn't have enough time to go to fucking baby groups.

greathat · 21/04/2020 22:59

Yup crazy. Who do they think is paying for this?

Cherrysoup · 21/04/2020 23:10

So many at the minute. A mate shared one asking for NHS workers to stop paying national insurance during lockdown. I asked her if she realised what National insurance pays for. The irony escaped her. She shared another saying all renters should have a 3 month rent holiday. I was like ‘Love, you’re a teacher and I know you’re being paid, wtf?’ She thought landlords were being given a literal mortgage holiday and didn’t have to pay at all for those 3 months.

ArgumentativeAardvaark · 21/04/2020 23:23

Boo fucking hoo.

Autumnsloth · 22/04/2020 13:21

That petition is sheer lunacy when people are losing work but to all those saying their babies are loving lockdown please reveal your secret... My 6 months DS is so bored, I'm all out of ideas on how to entertain him. He loved groups and coffees mornings - no doubt because it's just change of scene and new people, but still. He's also missing being outdoors (flat, no garden).

Alsohuman · 22/04/2020 13:26

It is ridiculous but not as ridiculous as the other one, by a mumsnetter I believe, about asking journalists to stop asking ministers questions during the virus so that they can get on with their job

Let me guess - mummy2017?

ButterbingQueen · 22/04/2020 13:36

It’s absolute madness. I had a baby a few months ago and a large number of people in my Mumsnet (now Facebook) antenatal group have shared and signed this . I just don’t understand where they think the money will come from? Surely the priority should be helping people get back into work? I say this as someone who has almost certainly lost their job as a result of CV if I try to go back in a few months & who has only been on statutory maternity pay whilst colleagues have been furloughed on 80% .

Gruffawoah · 22/04/2020 13:56

@Autumnsloth it was almost a year ago that DS was 6 months, but I remember it well as I was poorly and we couldnt leave the house for a fortnight, not the same I know, but hopefully these help:

As he had just mastered rolling I popped a duvet down on the living room floor with some toys on, and whilst keeping an eye on him let him roll around, it sounds simple but it kept him occupied for ages! Also would work well if he is still learning, as it provides a bit more cushioning.

Baby bum nursery rhymes and hey bear baby sensory on YouTube, I know telly isn't always ideal, but he loved the sounds and colours (presuming he hadn't the foggiest what was actually happening in them!).

If you are going out for walks, time it right so that you get a break when home. When I was feeling a bit overwhelmed I used to go for a walk after a nap so there wasn't a risk of nap time being spent in the pram where I could not enjoy the break haha.

Weaning seemed to take ages at that age if you have started, by the time one meal has been cleared up the next one was due, maybe have some fun with that and then add some toys into the bath etc.

Gruffawoah · 22/04/2020 13:57

Also quite a few baby groups are streaming online for free and libraries doing rhyme time, if you can connect it to the TV might be with a go.

MotherofKitties · 22/04/2020 13:58

I actually saw a friend who is on maternity leave share this petition on FB this morning and thought WTF...

I think a lot of people have taken their personal situation majorly out of context with what is happening with the rest of the world. I know people in real life complaining that their maternity leave has been ruined because they can't go to coffee shops and playgroups and I can't help but think get a bloody grip.

MerryDeath · 22/04/2020 14:00

saw that. HILARIOUS.

Happyspud · 22/04/2020 14:02

I saw that yesterday and it really pissed me off. Some people have no sense at all of what’s critical and important and what’s just indulgent.