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To be astonished at how much debt nurses have to take on?

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ArgumentativeAardvaark · 21/04/2020 10:12

Just reading this article in today’s Guardian about student nurses and debt www.theguardian.com/education/2020/apr/21/we-are-risking-our-lives-support-grows-to-cancel-student-nurses-debt?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

One of them is going to graduate with £48,000 of debt. I find that astonishing given the low pay that they receive once working- how can we possibly expect young people to take on that much debt to work for the NHS? Is that figure normal, or is she perhaps an unusual case?

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CoffeeIsMyOnlyJoy · 22/04/2020 18:29

You need 10000 practice hours to qualify too, much of which you are working to support the setting/ward.

Doggybiccys · 22/04/2020 18:48

@CayrolBaaaskin - I disagree. I am not saying unis are losing money due to retention of the bursary, it is more about the payment of fees. The majority of student nurse places in Scottish universities are controlled by the Scottish government and Scottish funding council. Due to the ucas system unis can end up with more nursing students than they are paid for. Plus the uni cannot set their own fees - they are capped. Then if students leave the course, the Scottish funding council will try to draw back the money from the uni even though the costs to the uni are the same.

Also - the Scottish bursary is not means tested and Scottish students cannot apply for a student loan. This massively disadvantages students who are from poorer backgrounds, mature students with families etc. A better system would be to abandon the bursary and give loans then if the student works in the NHS they don’t need to pay the loan back. This has been discussed at Scottish government and the response was the SNP will never do this as the bursary is a political winner. Scottish unis lose money year after year due to the system.

Bear in mind the bursary is going up to 10k and it is not unknown for students to join the course then join the healthcare support worker bank at the local hospital and start working (they will get fast tracked as student nurses), stop attending Uni and keep taking the bursary. It can take nearly a year to get a student excluded from the course if they know how to play the system. It’s certainly not perfect.

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