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To think that a personality cult has developed around Boris Johnson?

626 replies

Applejaxx · 17/04/2020 14:38

I know this sounds completley ridiculous but have a quick look around social media and in particular Twitter, and you will see a disturbing number of people with lots of union flags in their twitter handle name who effectively think that the sun shines out of his arse, that he can do no wrong and that any justifiable criticism of his or his governments handling of the current crisis is part of a massive 'leftie' conspiracy against him.

They are terrified of 'lefties's and 'liberals' and think all of the media are out to get Boris and his government, it is just bat shit. Its not just Twitter either, I had to unfriend someone on Facebook after they told me that I should 'show Boris some fucking respect' a few weeks ago. This was after I'd shared something criticising his handling of the pandemic. Thankfully it was somone I don't really know that well and never have to see again, but still!

If im honest it all a bit disturbing. Its reminscent of a personality cult IMO, 'how dare you disrespect our glorious leader'.

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CendrillonSings · 19/04/2020 06:32

She thought she could sell him as, what? Young (ha), modern, virile? Vacuous.

A landslide election winner Smile

chomalungma · 19/04/2020 09:00

I wonder if they are going to discuss the Sunday Times article on Marr.
And on GMB next week.

I wonder what it would take to burst the Boris boom?

MarshaBradyo · 19/04/2020 09:01

Good Times article, interesting.

chomalungma · 19/04/2020 09:02

Gove is on Marr - I wonder what he will say re the article

Peregrina · 19/04/2020 09:53

Didn't Blair win his last election with a 60 seat majority? This being the last time Labour won. It means absolutely nothing - there are an awful lot of weeks before the election is due, and a lot of time for a lot of events, dear boy events, to continue to happen.

Alsohuman · 19/04/2020 10:10

Gove is on Marr - I wonder what he will say re the article

Unfair reporting apparently.

chomalungma · 19/04/2020 10:15

Surprised he didn't say Fake news

Gove was very defensive.

Peregrina · 19/04/2020 10:20

I too thought Fake Noos. Maybe Gove can't 'Do' an American accent?

koshkatt · 19/04/2020 10:36

To be fair, we’d had an 18 year wait for that. Anyone who wasn’t a Tory was ecstatic that morning. It’s hardly evidence of cult

I remember the morning after Blair won and it was amazing. I look back now and realise how special it was - we were filled with hope in a way that we have never been since.

koshkatt · 19/04/2020 10:37

The Sunday Times is a boody good paper. It's a damning article.

Alsohuman · 19/04/2020 11:52

Sure is.

Clavinova · 19/04/2020 12:40

The Sunday Times is a bloody good paper.

From the article;

"But it took just an hour that January 24 lunchtime to brush aside the coronavirus threat. Matt Hancock, the health secretary, bounced out of Whitehall after chairing the meeting and breezily told reporters the risk to the UK public was “low”."

"This was despite the publication that day of an alarming study by Chinese doctors in the medical journal, The Lancet. It assessed the lethal potential of the virus, for the first time suggesting it was comparable to the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic, which killed up to 50 million people."

The Editor of The Lancet tweeted 23rd January -

"A call for caution please. Media are escalating anxiety by talking of a “killer virus” + “growing fears”. In truth, from what we currently know, 2019-nCoV has moderate transmissibility and relatively low pathogenicity.There is no reason to foster panic with exaggerated language."

1,479 Retweets

3,058 Likes

StarbucksSmarterSister · 19/04/2020 12:48

Without paywall
<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/20200418182037/www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/coronavirus-38-days-when-britain-sleepwalked-into-disaster-hq3b9tlgh" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">archive.is/20200418182037/www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/coronavirus-38-days-when-britain-sleepwalked-into-disaster-hq3b9tlgh

crazydiamond222 · 19/04/2020 12:50

@Clavinova I think the issue is with Richard Horton's mireading of the situation rather than any misreporting by The Times. At the time of the tweet numerious academics were pointing out his downplaying of the danger

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 19/04/2020 12:52

They're calling the Sunday Times article all sorts of names, but conspicuously not calling it untrue.

chomalungma · 19/04/2020 12:56

Matt Hancock, the health secretary, bounced out of Whitehall after chairing the meeting and breezily told reporters the risk to the UK public was “low

I suppose it depends on how you define 'low'.

The chances of dying from Coronavirus is low.
And transmissability is moderate.

However - even a low chance of dying and moderate transmissibility still means a lot of deaths when you have a population the size of the UK.

I wonder when this fact was realised in Cobra - along with the situation with the NHS and the ICU effects

Have you read the Nervtag minutes?

app.box.com/s/3lkcbxepqixkg4mv640dpvvg978ixjtf/folder/103551854721

Interesting reading - especially the 21st Feb meeting when they discuss the infection rate and the transmissability

app.box.com/s/3lkcbxepqixkg4mv640dpvvg978ixjtf/file/640968322003

Cheltenham took place on 10th March.
The current lockdown happened on on 23rd March.

I wonder when people in charge took notice of the Nervtag meeting

From that meeting:

Current PHE risk assessment of the disease is moderate. The PHE risk assessment to the UK population is also moderate.This is a composite of what is known about transmission and the impact on public health globally and in the UK.

Some members commented that there may be sustained transmission outside of Mainland China. Others commented that there is plenty of scope for escalation in the UK and this would be an argument to keep the assessment as moderate rather than highat this time.

PH asked the committee if anyone thought that the PHE risk assessment should change. No objections were raised however after the meeting, JE emailed to say that he was online but for some technical reason could not be heard. JE believesthat the risk to the UK population (in the PHE risk assessment) should be high, as there is evidence of ongoing transmission in Korea, Japan and Singapore, as well as in China

.2.5NERVTAG does not recommend a change to the PHE risk assessment at this time.

Lifeisgenerallyfun · 19/04/2020 13:03

On the flip side there has also been a cult/echo chamber that hates Boris and anything he does. With absolutely no critical thinking applied.

On that Thursday night before he went into hospital I made a comment that by the looks of him I suspect he was a lot iller than he was letting on (I was just starting to recover myself). Some chump came a long and started having a go saying he was making it up, what could we expect, he was a fraud blah blah blah. Soon followed by the woke echo chamber. The man looked like death warmed up, clearly there are a lot of people who can’t spot a very ill human being or a lot of people so blinded by their own hatered they can’t be rational.

Some people love him, others hate him. IMO Keir Starmer is just as bad. If he thinks the government are doing such a bad job where are his viable alternative plans rather than just suing - well I wouldn’t do it that way. One minute promising a united front, the next day having a massive go about everything without any course of action.

Quite frankly anyone who has risen to the top is 99% sure to be an egotistical twat to a large degree in any sphere of life.

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 19/04/2020 13:07

Jenrick's ship has not come in.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52343912

Clavinova · 19/04/2020 13:09

At the time of the tweet numerous academics were pointing out his downplaying of the danger

And yet his tweet received 3,000 likes from random........academics??

crazydiamond222 · 19/04/2020 13:12

Anyone can like a tweet Clarinova. Likes were probably from the 'its only flu' brigade of daily mail readers.

chomalungma · 19/04/2020 13:14

@clavinova

What do you think of the 21st Feb Nervtag minutes?

And the immediate Government reaction to them....

user1471565182 · 19/04/2020 13:17

Why have people given us these bloody morons, Boris especially. You knew what a fucking shit show he was, he ballsed up as foreign secretary, what possible excuse can you have for this crap. Literally thousands dead.

Applejaxx · 19/04/2020 13:17

Even the right wing press are turning on him now. The DM have been sticking the boot in for weeks, no doubt this was also be part of a ‘conspiracy’.

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Alsohuman · 19/04/2020 13:20

And that famous left wing mouthpiece, The Telegraph.

koshkatt · 19/04/2020 13:21

Quite frankly anyone who has risen to the top is 99% sure to be an egotistical twat to a large degree in any sphere of life

This is very true.

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