Rules re. leaving the house **Title edited by MNHQ**

[Trying2611]

To cool of for serval days after an argument at home? AIBU to think that people are going to find a way to manipulate this rule by using it as an excuse for a holiday to see friends for a week then returning home?

I think everyone should have watched the Q&As on the BBC from the start.

We always could travel to exercise, drop off homemade cakes, give care or support to people struggling and lots, of other situations that a, lot of MNers would have you hung, drawn and quartered for.

Now this stops all of the curtain twitchers reporting perfectly valid situations.

I think I could cite the care element.

I cook her meals. Give her food to take home. She gets a shower here. I wash her clothes etc...

Non of us are high risk and we are all staying inside.

Ffs. It's not a "tweak". It's not a "new rule"

Stop believing everything you read. Reporting this thread also, the title is extremely moronic

@Hanamuslim

You're the kind of person that has created this clarification.

Because you can't see beyond your own personal life and lack compassion and understanding of others.

It's incredibly self-centered.

It’s not so you can go to your friends it’s to enable people suffering domestic violence, the permission to escape.

When you consider the number of murdered women since lockdown, it’s terrifyingly, completely necessary.

3 x the normal number of murders (now there’s a thought! Normal murders!!) of women by men, have occurred since lockdown.

@ShavedNowColoured

You don't and have never needed to 'cite' anything. It's only certain MNetters that would tell you otherwise.

You're using common sense, compassion and understanding. There is no legislation to suggest you shouldn't.

IT IS NOT TO COVER DOMESTIC ABUSE.

THAT IS ALREADY IN THE LEGISLATION.

People in miserable and high stress situations with an effect on their MH will read those posts and think, well I'm not being abused so i'll have to put up with it.

And their MH will decline further. You don't have to be being abused but if your MH or relationship is suffering and it would be improved by going to your parents or a friend for a few days or the other people in your household doing that, it's okay and always was.

It was only MN telling you you had to be miserable, rapidly declining MH and get to breaking point and it didn't matter because of 'roolz'.

Sadly, yes, there are always tossers who will abuse any 'rule' because they think they're clever or special, when they're just selfish twats.

@Salmonpasta so does this mean my partner (who I don’t currently live with because of geography and the fact we have kids and need to be near their other parent ) can come and move in with me for this next three weeks of lockdown ? I mean , is that reasonable reason under this legislation ? I’m don’t want to be apart from him but don’t want to break the law / rules (

I should also add that we are pretty sure we have both had cv (as dp sat next to someone at a dinner who then was hospitalised with it, then dp and I were both poorly with symptoms )

@Salmonpasta of course people need to "cite" where they are going.

You think they don't have to give the police the reason they are out when they are asked?

Mikki. No it doesn't mean that. It is not a new rule or a tweak. Any such thing would mean a change in the legislation which requires an act of Parliament. I'm in the same situation with my partner and it sucks but we are not mixing households as that is proscribed by the legislation. What you're suggesting is the exact opposite of this clarifying guidance.. Wanting to be closer rather than creating distance.

Urrrrgh why are people always trying to find loop holes just stay at home its not that difficult 😡

@HugeAckmansWife it does indeed suck (

God I’ve been really disappointed in MN these past few weeks. Are all these dreadful curtain twitchers new users? The vibe is so nasty, sneering, critical. People seem so thrilled to dob each other in for minor infractions.

"Seriously? If people wanted to stay at a friends house they would already be doing it. What’s stopping them? If a friend wanted to come to mine think a police officer is going to stop them"

They might if they got a complaint.

Can somebody link to this new rule? I haven't heard about it.

Yes there are some dickheads who will exploit it but they're probably the ones not following the rules anyway.

@crustycrab The poster isn't going anywhere. They're letting a vulnerable friend visit which is likely to be saving their life.

If she visits them and in the extremely tiny possibilty the Police queried it, she could say legitimately that she is providing care for a vulnerable person.

I think the poster was more quering the utter arseholes on MN and similar who'll tell her she's 'breaking the roolz' they made up in their heads because many don't give a fuck how many people will commit suicide so long as they don't break the (made up in their heads) roolz.

I think you'd have to be in a poor state to need to get out with your children.
Anybody who thinks it's a reason to mix households for fun, will be the next stats, I'm not bothered about those, natural selection will get them, and they'll be less worry for us, who are staying in.
Let the idiots catch it.

"You don't have to be being abused but if your MH or relationship is suffering and it would be improved by going to your parents or a friend for a few days or the other people in your household doing that, it's okay and always was."

I understood that the rule was 'no visiting'. Most people will have their mental health affected by this crisis, so if the above is true, anyone can go visiting friends and relatives and that doesn't make sense at all.

"I'm not bothered about those, natural selection will get them, and they'll be less worry for us, who are staying in."

If you're still going out to the shop then more cases in your local area increases your risk as well. You're not separate from those people, their actions affect you.

I think it could be argued the lockdown is being too successful anyway. The Nightingale is practically empty. The Lockdown was supposed to slow transmission so the NHS can cope, which it has. "They" always knew the rules would be broken, the aim was to have enough compliance to slow the virus "enough", not to stop it. If we do that we just prolong things and risk creating a second big peak as soon as we try and lift restrictions.

Of course there needs to be provision for people to get out of DV situations. Of course some people will abuse it, but that's OK, the system doesn't require 100% compliance and what else would occupy the people currently analysing their neighbours' every move?

Salmon why do you keep posting rules as roolz ? Is it to demonstrate you think the posters who talk about rules are thick?
It is a good point that everyone's mental health suffers in lockdown (mine certainly is today for various reasons). The difference is if your starting point was already low, and you were for example receiving medical help for mental health issues, you are going to suffer more.

@Watertorture.

Yes many quoting 'roolz' are thick as they don't know the difference between a 'rule' and guidance.

And they have been abusing others because of their lack of understanding.

And they lack the ability to understand other peoples lives and have compassion for them.

BettyBo33 Fri 17-Apr-20 10:01:51
If my lovesick teen DS gets wind of this he’ll be trying to wangle an argument so he can go ‘cool off’ at his girlfriend’s house!