To think this doctor really really hates mumsnet

[Ikeasucks]

Glad he’s got his priorities right in the middle of a pandemic. He’s really, really want to see mumsnet closed down and has a fair following - even been on telly

Tellmewhen
I get it now. It's not that he's actually against hate speech per se. He's just against anyone other than him getting to post the hate speech. All clear now .

Plus, love the way two white middle age men with no experience of life for women in Niger get to speak on the cultural / sociological / philosophical correctness of being married off age 12. Funny how two doctors avoid mentioning any possible medical concerns with a pre-teen getting pregnant / going through labour.

He clearly hates women.

The fact is Mumsnet is viewed as transphobic

The fact is we are in the midst of a global pandemic which has put the planet on house arrest

Yes, there can be two completely different facts about two completely different things both at the same time.

How he has managed to remain a doctor is beyond me. Some of the stuff he has written is obscene.

Yes, there can be two completely different facts about two completely different things both at the same time

If you imagine that the priorities displayed by an NHS doctor choosing this particular moment to target mumsnet reflect well on him or his concerns? You are seriously misguided.

The fact is though Willis that MN is NOT transphobic as the complete lack of any transphobic 'evidence' proves.

It is not women's fault if some flat earthers think that biology is transphobic now is it?

Funny how two doctors avoid mentioning any possible medical concerns with a pre-teen getting pregnant / going through labour.

This. ^^ It's obscene of them to disregard the abused child in this scenario so they can play the right-on card in this academic game of cultural relativism. Bastards.

Oh and I voted YANBU in the poll, I mean, is it really a question as to whether or not YABU to think he really, really, hates Mumsnet?
Or was it just to get a second thread on an already identical thread out on the main boards?
Because, I mean who's going to vote YABU I think he really loves MN?
It's epically clear he doesn't lol

Opinion matters little when it’s a matter of accurate and non-accurate.

Your opinion on stats being ‘sexist’ is invalid, because it’s incorrect.

And this ridiculous idea that absolutely any opinion is completely valid and valuable, just because, is half of what’s got us into this shit show in the first place, so I have very little patience with it.

Opinions/feelings/wishes/wants do not automatically become valid just because someone decided to hold them. Not when it comes to biological fact, not when it comes to quoting empirical evidence, not when it comes to determining whether something is true or untrue (in the concrete sense - obviously it different when it comes to abstract thinking). I’m sorry if you think that’s harsh, but that’s what life is like in the real world. And I’m sorry if you felt that I was being patronising. In fact I’m complimenting you by even bothering to engage. Most of the time I can’t be bothered.

So, if you want to argue, let’s argue. Let’s discuss. Can you counter my assertion that (assuming they’re empirical and easy quantified and no ‘interpretation’ or bias has occurred), stats are a reflection of a state of affairs and not the cause of it, and quoting them does not imply agreement with said cause?

Willis What's your opinion on his targeting mumsnet, while completely leaving Reddit and Kiwi Farms alone? What do you think his reasoning is? Those two forums are absolutely vicious regarding him and his TRA friends, yet he never mentions them. They are ran by and for men by the way, but I wondered if you thought that had anything to do with his hatred of posters here, with crickets about them?

It's very unfortunate but some people view statements such as Woman =Adult Human Female and Human beings cannot change sex as transphobic

Yes, I know that (I've been involved at the sharp end of some of this witch-hunt).

But I'd love to know where the actual transphobia is on MN. There might be the a really "properly" transphobic post or two, but I suspect these are either
a) plants by posters less than straightforward in their motivations for posting
b) by genuine MN posters whose views run counter to the basic ethical belief that transwomen should & do have full human rights. Those posts get reported & deleted very quickly.

Gets popcorn.

Too late.

What's your opinion on his targeting mumsnet, while completely leaving Reddit and Kiwi Farms alone?

And Twitter itself. The comments on the University Challenge transwoman competitor, for example. Really nasty.

How is proposing to explain the sex based difference in COVID 19 susceptibility? How can scientists rationally discuss this phenomenon if the definition of the sexes is based on something other than biology?

I agree Yoga although I have never seen any posts under your section b)

How is Dr H

The fact is Mumsnet is viewed as transphobic. You can claim until you're blue in the face that it's not, it's still viewed that way

Its generally viewed as transphobia by trans rights activists /men's rights activists / plus the woke who have limited critical thought skills, all who see no issue in breaking down womens boundaries, safe spaces and removing their sex based rights.

This movement is about personal gains, whether it's about males getting into women's spaces, or males /females wishing to win woke points, again for their own gains, whether it be male approval or business benefits. The humble shamed apologies that appear when high profile people suddenly get attacked for pointing out that it is nonsensical that men should be taking women's rights, spaces, sports, shows this. They are terrified as not being seen as pc, as being discriminatory, and they fall back on the side of these activists in order to minimise their loses, caring little that the real discrimination in all of this is against women. Who suddenly don't count. As it has been forever. Amazing what the simple accusation of 'transphobia' 'bigot' etc can achieve. Well once anyway. The world is waking up to this nonsense now.

The call of transphobia doesn't mean Mumsnet is transphobic, quite the opposite in fact. It's nothing to do with transphobia. And the activists know this. The word is just the weapon of choice. In this case it simply means that women are not prepared to give up their legal protections despite the spurious accusations levied at them. But the call of transphobia persists, an attempt to shut down women's voices by embarrassing them, doxing them, trying to remove their employment. Quite a vicious response towards women really. As ever. Not going to happen though. We will not be silenced. And it's not transphobia to protect women's rights.

Chaz Jane Fae already said that more men are dying of Covid becuase there is a lack of 'cis' women in front line jobs. Yes, they really did say that.

Ah, so Arla told the crazy doctor to go forth and multiply? I withdraw the sad face, I will continue to buy it with a clear conscience.

Most NHS doctors are preoccupied with the impact of this global pandemic on their profession, their patients, their families. It must be a stressful, challenging time for all those NHS employees who are working in difficult conditions to manage a virus which as of yet has no cure. Strange that this particular doctor finds the time to target mumsnet. What peculiar priorities.

We will not be silenced. And it's not transphobia to protect women's rights

Well said. I stand right with you.

@Nelliana.

YES.

koshkatt
Gosh I hope someone has told all the healthcare professionals with two X chromosomes that they aren’t actually front line staff...

In fact I’m going to quote.

It’s generally viewed as transphobia by trans rights activists /men's rights activists / plus the woke who have limited critical thought skills, all who see no issue in breaking down womens boundaries, safe spaces and removing their sex based rights.

This movement is about personal gains, whether it's about males getting into women's spaces, or males /females wishing to win woke points, again for their own gains, whether it be male approval or business benefits. The humble shamed apologies that appear when high profile people suddenly get attacked for pointing out that it is nonsensical that men should be taking women's rights, spaces, sports, shows this. They are terrified as not being seen as pc, as being discriminatory, and they fall back on the side of these activists in order to minimise their loses, caring little that the real discrimination in all of this is against women. Who suddenly don't count. As it has been forever. Amazing what the simple accusation of 'transphobia' 'bigot' etc can achieve. Well once anyway. The world is waking up to this nonsense now.

The call of transphobia doesn't mean Mumsnet is transphobic, quite the opposite in fact. It's nothing to do with transphobia. And the activists know this. The word is just the weapon of choice. In this case it simply means that women are not prepared to give up their legal protections despite the spurious accusations levied at them. But the call of transphobia persists, an attempt to shut down women's voices by embarrassing them, doxing them, trying to remove their employment. Quite a vicious response towards women really. As ever. Not going to happen though. We will not be silenced. And it's not transphobia to protect women's rights.