To say some people are being ridiculously hysterical?

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It's a serious situation, of course it is and I understand the need to slow the spread. And I understand why those at particularly high risk would be extra careful.

But honestly, some of the threads on here at the moment. It is just a constant, endless circle of people slagging off their friends or family for some perceived flouting of THE RULES, panicking and losing sleep because you're not sure if you disinfected your Amazon parcel well enough, quarantining a carton of milk for 72hrs, being called a serial killer because you sat down on some grass for 10 minutes after going for a run, stopping to talk to a family member out the window after your supermarket trip is akin to the worst crime known to man.

I've never ever read or witnessed such mass hysteria before. AIBU to think that some people are going absolutely crazy?

I've never ever read or witnessed such mass hysteria before. AIBU to think that some people are going absolutely crazy?

Have you ever been part of a global pandemic before OP?

I also think people are scared. Some are just being twats clearly but I think a lot of it is fear to be honest.

Makeiygoaway- ONS publish total deaths.
For comparisons with Corona deaths April's figures will be relevant, March not so as the virus only started to affect the UK in a meaningful way towards the end.

If you're interested in calm analysis of the figures with no "flu kills more people so lockdown should finish" Darwinism, then the graphs longrunning thread is excellent.

Bigbird With all due respect you need to get a grip. If you and your family are social distancing and staying home as much as possible then you are unlikely to catch the virus.

BTW who are all these people having gatherings and bbqs? Because where I am everyone seem social distancing and not meeting up with anyone outside of their households. I’m only aware of one party in a house locally being broken up by police, but going from comments on social media these people were nightmare neighbors anyway.

@Makeitgoaway
www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales

My town has become a hotspot of neighbours spying on each other, reporting everything, shouts of abuse for anyone walking down the road with a child. There are also some who go out of their way to help others who are more vulnerable, which is lovely. You get a bit of everything I guess.

Sleepingpup swine flu was a pandemic, and HIV/Aids is still and ongoing one. So the answer to that question would be yes. But don’t let that get in the way of being a smart arse

Was the plan always to let it run through carehomes then Politics? To send the elderly back to them from hospital to die? To change policy 4 times in 12 days as to how the virus would be dealt with? To ignore the WHO? Then two days later adopt the WHO's recommendations? To say "we are increasing testing to 10,000 a day from today" and then test half that number? To rush through the building of Nightingale hospitals? To not have enough PPE? To miss 4 Europe wide conference calls to discuss a common strategy?

Because it's all there, in black and white and on TV.

History will not judge them kindly.

Gosh, my typo of 2000 rather than 20000 flu deaths seems to have caused its own frothing! The point is that large numbers of people are dying from a new disease we don’t yet understand. If I get it I’ll likely be one of them. So I can understand why people are scared and upset at people taking unnecessary risks!

I don't care if people make up their own stricter version of the rules. I don't care if they wipe their fruit down in Milton as it's only them that they are impacting.

What bothers me is when their anxiety spills over and they want to impact their own rules onto others.

It's the extreme language that's been getting to me.

Someone described as being "vile" for walking their dog twice a day. VILE!!!

Irresponsible, perhaps. But vile? Come on.

Disgusting is another one I have seen, for sitting on a bench.

The US Centers for Disease Control currently does not recommend disinfecting packaging

While there is some evidence that the virus can survive on hard surfaces, the risk from handling food packing is very low and there is no evidence that the illness can be transmitted in this way - SafeFood.EU

According to the government’s food safety website, it is “very unlikely” that you can catch coronavirus from food.

“COVID-19 is a respiratory illness. It is not known to be transmitted by exposure to food or food packaging”, the guidelines read.

According to the World Health Organisation, the risk of catching the virus that causes Covid-19 from a package that has been moved, travelled, and exposed to different conditions and temperatures is also very low

“Things that are in packages, I would maintain a degree of common sense with the view that they are unlikely to make anybody sick” - Professor Baker of the Dept of Medicine Cambridge University.

The ONS report published just now on the graphs thread shows that up to 3/4 there were 6000+ more deaths than usual.

For every thread there is about rule breaking, there’s one complaining about the threads about rule breaking.

Meh. We won't know whether the plan has worked for years. PPE is a significant issue and continues to be (particularly it seems outside of hospital settings).

I will support the Government by abiding by the rules set but reserve the right to pick them up on areas they are not/have not tackled as well as they could have - and for that I will listen to the medical unions as I suspect they best informed on conditions experienced by their members.

And I can't get excited over a few paranoid/over excited mumsnetters - most people are experiencing varying amounts of fear depending on their individual circumstances.

I live in a CV hot spot and everyone I know is acting sensibly but cautiously.

@TheCanterburyWhales

That’s a pretty cruel thing to say that the plan was for it to run through care homes . So what would you have done to stop that . Practically .

It’s easy to sit there and critisise . Let’s hear your solutions . Taking into account the full transfer of all the complicated physical and medical support that care homes provide .

Try and answer without making it a post pushing your political views . Because the whole world has to fight this so we welcome your words of wisdom

@Leflic, I would posit that that person fits in the lowest common denominator bracket. Most people I know are absolutely doing their best.

Greysparkes thank you so much, have broken finger and on phone progress posting is slow. Saved me having to struggle on. I totally agree with your post and screenshot from the governments Annual Flu Report 2018/19.

I'd grabbed a screenshot and was frustrated trying to post about how disingenuous it is to comment 2000 dying of flu last year is, when its TOTALLY taken out of context, given 26,000 year before with no media reports. And many other v high numbers over previous decade.

There is an unpleasant minority here who relish egging on the already over anxious, take the opportunity others for their own particular circumstances and - from people who I suspect have very little power in their own lives - extrapolating law and guidelines to try and control others.

People I know in real life, including those who have had it, who are shielding the vulnerable and those working directly in medical and support services are not hysterical like this. They are managing their lives as best they can and keeping a sense of humour - wry, or even black humour - and a sense of balance.

It’s going to be a long haul - frothing and wailing is going to exhaust you.

If I were old or frail in a care home (or my home) I think I’d rather die there in familiar surroundings than with aggressive medical intervention in an ICU where the treatment would be difficult to bear and likely to fail. Just my own view.

Susie, remind me again what Hancock said about the elderly? Was it 20,000?
Of course I don't think that it was the plan. I was replying to NoMorePolitics. But it's what is happening.

Edwards- the poster made a typo.

6000+ more deaths in March 2020 than over the average number in the last five years. Not a typo. Today's ONS figures.

Of course, the death figures relying to the time we've been in lockdown aren't a true comparison to figures from last year because our life now isn't the same as this time last year - there won't be the same number of deaths caused by RTAs, industrial accidents, pollution, other infections reduced by social distancing, deaths due to operations and hospital treatment ( many of those will happen later due to lack of treatment). Those deaths are missing from the data now and have been prevented by being on lockdown.

Yanbu this seems to have really brought out some angry curtain twitcher types. It’s really revealed who would have joined the hitler youth...

Canterbury , ok, thanks, I'll go back and look. By the time I'finshed, thread moved on two pages! Im so slow, ca'nt keep, ttupid finger.