To say some people are being ridiculously hysterical?

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It's a serious situation, of course it is and I understand the need to slow the spread. And I understand why those at particularly high risk would be extra careful.

But honestly, some of the threads on here at the moment. It is just a constant, endless circle of people slagging off their friends or family for some perceived flouting of THE RULES, panicking and losing sleep because you're not sure if you disinfected your Amazon parcel well enough, quarantining a carton of milk for 72hrs, being called a serial killer because you sat down on some grass for 10 minutes after going for a run, stopping to talk to a family member out the window after your supermarket trip is akin to the worst crime known to man.

I've never ever read or witnessed such mass hysteria before. AIBU to think that some people are going absolutely crazy?

It's not just the curtain twitching self-appointed armchair Police, its the total lack of compassion and understanding for other people lives that's got to me.

And in particular, it's made it very, very clear that many people don't take MH problems seriously. The amount of 'i'm sick of people using MH as an excuse to go out' 'your MH isn't important right now' 'grow a backbone' posts i've seen is just sickening.

YANBU /the hysteria is unedifying. And what worries me most is the way adults are passing on their paranoia to children.

Yes and the ableist posts as well @TheSkyIsFallingIn123 such as when someone with an autistic child asked if there was an exemption to the rules on exercise for him, the pile on was quite nasty, no exceptions, he’s not special etc, not to mention wrong as there IS actually an exemption if it counts as medical need. I don’t know why I was surprised mind you.

Another woman swore at me when I went running the other day, even though I had given her a wide enough berth.

How wide a berth, given some research is reporting joggers and cyclists need to allow far more than a 2 metre distance?

I'm also fed up of people wanting to blame someone every time someone dies. There are illnesses, it happens.

If someone kills their wife, it's not the police's fault, it's the murdering toerag who did it's fault.

If someone commits a terrorist attack in London, it's not the intelligence services' fault, it's the fault of the murdering toerag who did it.

And if someone dies of coronavirus, it's not the government's fault, or the neighbour's fault for going out more than once a day, it's the fact it's a new virus and we don't know how to deal with it yet.

Stop looking for someone to blame and just get on with life as far as you can at the moment.

It's hardly being hysterical to disagree with people who think the rules don't apply to them.

This I agree with, however half the so called rules mentioned on MN are made up by posters who indulge in competitive misery and bear little relation to anything the government says.

YANBU op! Some posters, well actually a lot of posters, seem to chomping at the bit to report anyone. They have lost all common sense.

agree totally. The regulations have been set with the lowest common denominator in mind, the majority of us ought to be able to apply a little common sense.

And here is the problem. People are arguing on another thread that there is nothing in THE LAW to say they can’t shop everyday. One poster went four times in one day and then daily. I mean literally no different to pre “lockdown” life.
I do think lots of people break lockdown in small ways myself included if I’m honest.I don’t pretend a I’m not going against the rules though. If we left it to common sense there would be zero lockdown.

@QuestionMarkNow
Yes indeed, there are differences. The new information about ventilators is not that ventilators are killing people. There is a phenomenon that people with dangerously low oxygen levels are not as clinically distressed as you would expect and in soma cases may be supported by other oxygen therapies. This is also a dangerous "best guess" as organs can shut down very quickly.
My point is that all of these experts, many of whom are learning more every day, and also are learning from the experiences of our neighbouring countries who are a few weeks ahead of us, know so much more than the angry armchair experts on MN who seem to know everything, and our Govt is responsible for each and every death. There was much shouting about an earlier lock down and yet some people are flouting it. There is critcism of our scientists and yet I read so much ignorance on her, which would be ok if it wasnt filled with bile and blame. Marginally better than blaming 5G I suppose

YADNBU OP some of the histrionics I've witnessed are quite astonishing.

@MigginsMs I've seen more than a few posters asking the same and getting the same pile on.

I am very bored of the 'they think they're special' line being trotted out. No, not special, just trying to not need social services if they get to the point they can't cope. Or NHS intervention to manage their own MH when its detetiorated. Or not commit suicide. But going on a lot of posts, that doesn't matter, only deaths from coronavirus do.

The disablist and ageist posts on here are repulsive.

All these curtain twitchers ringing the police because their neighbours are sitting in their back gardens or going out more than once a day have obviously forgotten that this won’t last forever and things will go back to normal. These busybodys aren’t going to be popular are they? I know I wouldn’t forget the neighborhood snitch who’d reported me/shamed me on social media!

It certainly makes you think again about people you thought you knew. I have a friend who I always thought perfectly sane who had told me she disinfects her shopping and only shops in Waitrose now after reading z news article (!) about someone arrested for licking packaging in Lidl.
Seriously bonkers.

People are terrified. I'm genuinely scared to death that me or anyone in my family will get it. The thought of me being alone in hospital or my dc or indeed anyone else from my family being critically ill and alone is a hideous thought.

This is why people are being 'hysterical'. I'm not going to get myself worked up over someone having a second walk or anything like that but when selfish stupid people are still having gatherings, visitors, bbqs and acting like the rules don't apply to them I will totally get on my high hysterical horse about it.

@NataliaOsipova exactly- if people could only grasp this simple fact, and it’s something most experts seem to agree on.

If you are susceptible to dying from this virus all you can do is really hide until/if there is a vaccine/cure. The job of the rest of is to limit the spread so that the nhs can cope. This means keeping contact to an absolute minimum, which does mean - don’t sit on the grass for 10 min after a run, where people are walking past, what if everyone plonked themselves for 10 min rest in the park?where you might cough on something someone touches, only one of you going to the supermarket, as little as possible, the fewer people out and about the fewer potentially contaminating interactions.

Unless you are one of the shielded groups this whole thing is not about stopping you catching it, it’s about you not giving it to anyone else. But in a society where me me me has been allowed to prevail its little wonder some people cannot comprehend the whole thing isn’t about them, it’s about society as a whole.

There's also a lot of people saying that the "law" limits you to an hour exercise and you have to stay within 2km of home. (Both untrue).

People have been picking up snippets of what's happening in other countries, where obviously rules/laws are different. And assuming it applies here too. Or worse, taking what people say on MN as gospel. There's no rule saying people have to wear masks, or gloves, or bleach their shopping, or not buy Easter eggs or any of the other nonsense people have gone on about.

Stick to the guidance by staying at home and only shopping as often as is essential for you. That's different for every family. I drive and am able bodied, so we do a big shop once a fortnight, get meat/veg delivered from a butcher and send teen DS to the local shop when we run out of milk. But for someone else who doesn't drive and can't carry much, they might have to go every couple of days. You can't take what you're doing, and extrapolate that to what everyone else "should" be doing too.

I am so sick of people on here blaming the government for all this.

I think people actually think that the government should be stopping the virus completely and if they don't and people die then it is a national disgrace.

It is such faulty thinking to believe that the government can actually stop this - it is a fucking novel virus that happens every now and then due to like, life on earth.

There is something in this hysteria about people believing we can and should be able to overcome and beat anything, a sort of sanitized version of what life is, where we all should be safe and happy. When in fact, life is fucking brutal and sometimes we have to take things on the chin and just deal with it the very best we can.

I think people actually think that the government should be stopping the virus completely and if they don't and people die then it is a national disgrace.

Totally. Even though that's impossible to do.

@Hercwasonaroll can you point me toward the data for that? I've been wondering how the overall death rate compares to normal but I can't find any data for March 2020

The problem is people are in general stupid and ill informed. Alot of people who claim others ae lacking in "critical thinking" don't have any evidence or critical thinking to back up their view point just normalcy bias or some other selfish motive. The virus can actually live on surfaces for a number of days so it's not crazy to wipe down packages or quarantine milk. It really depends on what level of risk you're willing to accept. I'd rather not get infected but I'm not particularly worried either from a selfish perspective but I do have a moral obligation to prevent the spread - including to me. It's young, healthy people will actually cause a massive issue to the healthcare system since a significant proportion do need help and we don't die quickly like the old and frail we sit around slowly getting better consuming resources for a lot longer. While I'm taking up those resources they're not available for someone else and our healthcare system doesn't operate with any redundancy. This is a once in 100 years event so yes the level of care and disruption to your life is going to be unprecedented.

I definitely think lots of people are not being guided by science and don't understand spread and risk, there is definitely some hysteria some people are just scared, and the vast majority are being sensible and some think they should get medals for being like Stasi informers

scientifically we know most people over exaggerate some risks and minimise others, balancing risks scientifically is difficult. Chris Whitty is very good at it and says deaths from covid have to be balanced against more deaths from heart disease and cancer because of delayed treatment; he is also concerned about children getting sickier because parents are not taking them to hospital to protect them against the relative smaller risk of covid than the bigger risk to that child of not getting treatment and that is before you start to add in the balance of the lonliness, poverty and mental health issues covid may cause
different activities have different risks being outdoors 2 metres away from other people is a very very tiny risk compared with meeting up with families and friends with 10 people from different households in one room for 2-3 hours
the vast majority well over 90% are sticking to rules this is a far greater degree of compliance than government expected,
The trajectory of deaths in the UK is under that of france and Italy despite lockdown being less severe, population density also matters

The virus can actually live on surfaces for a number of days so it's not crazy to wipe down packages or quarantine milk

How do you quarantine milk, I'm not being goady, I'm genuinely interested? Wipe it down yes (not that I do) but where would you put it to quarantine it?

I would like to give a great big thank you to
@cologne4711
@Makeitgoaway
and 'Lifeisgenarallyfun

For the most common sense posts of the day.

The plan IS WORKING
It is the virus that is killing
Stop Blaming someone else
and.. my favourite
" the me me me me has been allowed to prevail"
I have seen this evolve over the last 40 years at an alarming pace ( see bridezilla posts)
Perhaps it is social media and the celeb culture.
Here we face the biggest disaster in 100 years. Do we pull together and help our Governments? Do we nelly, its bitch bitch bitch all the way