To think our new normal could be a better way of life?

[Wehttam]

Ok first of all, hear me out. Maybe this is hypothetical fantasy but I think it has merit.

As we are adjusting to Lockdown and both its benefits and disadvantages, I have started thinking about how civilisation may be able to use this as a starting point for a new way of life, accepting the previous 24/7 have it all lifestyle is fundamentally poisonous to our wellbeing.

I fully understand this is a global pandemic and is catastrophic for many people, losing loved ones, suffering illness and the fear of how this could potentially affect many people’s lives going forward economically is a worry no one wants or needs, I am not minimising this nor am I advocating for blanket suffering or pain before you come for me.

Environmentally this is momentarily allowing the planet to slowly recover from one of its biggest problems, Us. Look outside, the air is cleaner already, the noise we had so become used to has quietened, our frantic pace of living has slowed, for most of us this will have untold health benefits as well as benefits to nature we will see manifest further over the coming weeks.

I fully appreciate how for many people this is an uncertain time, those suffering DV or poverty are living in hell, the situation right now is unpeeling the veneer society generally paints over these problems though. What if our new reality was to help those who are vulnerable and suffering but still maintain this level of calm muted living.

Excessive commuting, over consumption of single use anything, traffic everywhere, takeaways, shops, bars clubs, restaurants catering for every niche or whim, flying everywhere incessantly, worrying about having he latest this or that, which all means sweet FA at the moment. What it all boils down to is all of that was needless to actually live and breathe properly wasn’t it?

Eventually once Lockdown starts to be lifted, are you willing to go back to that chaos the outside world had become? I’m not so sure I am and I dont think it will be any good for those who do. Thoughts?

It’s not interesting at all. It’s people like you who are reporting them. Censorship isn’t a good look.

Oh do one
I haven't reported anyone
Bloody child

Well given that people are happy to drive their aging relatives and young children around despite knowing that road accidents happen, or live in cities despite air pollution, or take part in sports despite the risk of injury, or visit less developed countries despite the risk of disease, I’m pretty sure they will. As I said, in the new normal C19 is just one more risk alongside the hundreds we already live with, just a few more deaths alongside the thousands we already accept.

Quite - all the people banding about "we must stay in doors to save my immunocompromised 3rd cousin!" would have no problem with driving round the M25, their child playing rugby or contact sports, eating processed red meat, smoking, visiting exotic countries or doing recreational drugs. Corona will eventually be added onto that long list of things we should be vaguely concerned about but not really.

And I also bet that all the people shouting at others to "save lives" now are only doing it because they are personally affected - we have been able to save lives for a very long time by donating to charities or lobbying for better employment conditions in the 3rd world, but very few did that because it happened "elsewhere" and didn't affect them.

If anything, I think that Covid-19 shows us that what happens ‘elsewhere’ really does affect us.

Faux concern. So fucking irritating.
Where was this concern before?
Where was all this concern when cuts cost lives. Where was it in the days leading up to CV19?

Instead nope. It was let's bash everyone I deem beneath me.

Wonder how many of 'your' neighbours will be as friendly as they were yesterday. Considering ones of today's headlines

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/04/13/tell-neighbours-breach-lockdown-rules-say-police/

@BlibbyBlobby
I agree with you

I also think that the government should send a message to the population that everyone should take responsibility of their health and stop smoking, taking drugs, drinking to excess.

This thread is pretty offensive. The OP telling ppl who have lost relatives that they should "look on the bright side". Ffs.

The OP was pretty dodgy hence deleted posts.

This popped up in my Facebook feed and made me think of you OP!

@Wehttam

Hey remember me? We were having a discussion (in which I was calling you out on some of your comments), care to respond? Or were you unable to find responses that fitted your narrative so chose to ignore me? I'll just remind you of my most recent post to give you another change to respond.

'At no point have I said I want to trade off vulnerable lives for this. There will be a vaccine or eradication or at least control of this eventually and that is when I would like life to go back to normal, once it is safe to do so.

You're right, you are not asking for the end of normality on a whim, you are suggesting it will be a better way of life though and that's what I disagree with. If things change I may have to accept the situation but you will not be convincing me it is somehow better.

Your thread is extremely confused and convoluted and I have read it from the beginning, thank you very much. In one post you talk about how the slower pace of life is more enjoyable and then the next the environment and the next consumerism. Whilst I understand these issues are all connected on some level none of these are direct. A slower pace of life won't improve the environment in itself as it may just mean people stay in all day, keep all the lights on, use electronics and blast the heating/aircon.

So what are you actually advocating for? Less of what you call 'chaos' and 24 hour living? Maintaining the environmental changes we have seen during lockdown? Less consumerism?

Please refrain from calling me 'my dear' I find it extremely patronizing.'

Just catching up with this thread. So we got trolled and I got trolled into talking about someone who died then. I feel quite sad about that.