To not want schools to give up summer holidays

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Just read in papers that it’s been proposed that kids go back to school in July/ August

I think this is a rubbish idea - if it’s going to be that long then just let them have a ‘normal’ summer and go back in September.

Kids have been cooped up because of this- I’d want to take mine to the hills, go camping & let them have some freedom. Then start school in September. This isn’t a holiday for them - it’s a horrible stressful period of being cooped up & not being able to live their normal lives.

While school gives a structure and is important, so are proper periods of holiday.

I’m really against the idea but aibu? Be interested to hear other thoughts. I’ve not been particularly worried about the kids education- they will catch up in time and it will be fine

FreakStar. That would make much more sense. I can see them pushing the new academic year to start in January.

**Well france have announced schools and nurseries to start opening again in 4 weeks and they were hit worse than we were so could be the same for us?

No - that’s not what Macron said. He said he would review ‘complete’ lockdown on the 11th of May. That is totally different to opening schools.

It also needs to be acknowledged that teachers aren't returning to a normal classroom environment. They're returning to an environment where almost everyone will be in some state of grief. They're going to need every bit of energy to help our children find their way forwards. After the Manchester bomb some pupils were at the concert at my DC's school. It had an understandable big effect. This will have directly effected many more people.

Macron definitely said he was opening schools.

What he said was

'From May 11 we will gradually reopen crèches, schools, colleges and high schools. Classes will not resume physically until the summer.
'The government, in consultation with the government, will have set up special rules to organise time differently, to protect our teachers and our children with the equipment used for students in higher education.'

There seems to be a disturbingly large section of MNers whose primary concern about schools re-opening appears to focus on whether their child will get a chance to have their leavers' party.
That is about the last thing teachers will be organising in the event of schools opening before what should have been the end of the summer term.
And, cherish123 and Pammy50, you appear not to understand, as has been explained countless times on here, the difference between being paid DURING the holiday period, and FOR the holidays.

657 posts on here, all batting around the same 3 or 4 points.
We're going round in circles.
Suffice it to say that we teachers are mainly regarded as lazy bastards, who are revelling in this Corona stuff, as it means we can get even longer paid holidays. It seems it's entirely down to us that schools are closed, and we can decide also whether or if we ever open again.
Nothing to do with the Government at all, then.

Do we really need to rush? There is no guarantee that those who have caught and recovered from the disease cannot catch it again. Further research is underway on this apparently. In addition, the likelihood of a second wave of COVID-19 commencing in the Autumn is high if lockdowns are eased too soon after all the second wave of Spanish Flu was more deadly than the first. So, we risk a second spike of infections during the winter months. However, if the schools remain closed until September, they will be less likely to act as a focus for infection.
Or do we simply say right we have smoothed the curve for the summer and now get back to work everyone and whatever happens in the autumn then we just tough it out? The government will say at least 80% of us are going to get this virus - nothing we can do about that. Some of you are going to get sick, some of you are going to get very sick and yes, I'm afraid that some of you will die.'

If we plough through we a July start to the autumn term loads of kids will be ill by October....

Yes this is not seasonal. When they are talking about schools open in summer and another peak in the autumn, they mean as a result of schools being open.

well no the peak in the autumn wouldnt be because schools are open it would be because lockdown would have ended (which it will have to)

A couple of friends of mine are TAs, if they have to go to work unpaid in the summer they are going to struggle financially due to the cost of petrol if nothing else, should we really be expecting them to work unpaid during their holidays (as they are currently doing - they haven't had an Easter break at all).

Bubblybarbara Really, people are sick of their children? Your world is not mine, thank goodness. I don’t live in a world where parents are always trying to get away from their children, go away on holiday without their children, get someone else to look after them etc. Yes children are exasperating and annoying at times, just like I am sure we were when we were children, that’s because they are children and we are supposed to be the adult parents who look after them and teach them to become great adults. Children should not be at school during the summer because it’s the summer and they should be out and enjoying their break from school. Remember how many times children swelter in classrooms towards the end of the summer term? Are you really saying that they should be kept in hot classrooms throughout august because you can’t think of anything to do with your children over those weeks? What a shame. My 12 year old will not enjoy his remote learning summer term and he will need downtime after it, and I certainly will not want to pack him off to school because I’m “sick of hanging out with him”

Really, people are sick of their children?

In a world where we have so many threads complaining that a week half term is too long, that spending an entire WEEK with children is a hardship, and why can't they stay at school all year round?
Yes, I expect a lot of these people to be sick of their children. Poor kids.Why do people bother having them in the first place is anyone's guess.

People have to accept when schools reopen there will be an increase in infection. It does not matter when that happens. Typically there is a spike in pupil illness later in the autumn term - students tired. Students will bring the illness from home/catch it a school - schools are not hygienic places.

if schools go back early then all members of staff, involved in childcare, will need to be paid as this will be outside of their contractual commitments.

I have a child with extra needs who is struggling, our income has been halved because of her childcare needs and she's an only child so I'd very much welcome this. Aside from my personal opinion I think it makes perfect sense for all the lost time and it allows the to 'finish' their year which for some kids will be a huge deal. Most will love seeing and being with their friends just as much as going away I suspect, so I guess whose needs come first here? Nothing about this year is going to be normal but frankly the idea of a 6 week holiday after this fills me with dread.

@Everyexitisanentrance Yes the government still wants us all to get it and even more people to die. They are still ignoring WHO who say it is possible to stop this.

My DC’s school is setting work every single day for almost every subject. My eldest son is work so hard. He deserves his school holidays. Just because he is physically at school doesn’t mean he isn’t working for a large part of the day.

French pm did say he was reopening schools and nurseries it came direct from his mouth when he gave his daily update to france today.

he didn't say on what date though!

Just seen the update that he said lessons will not resume till after summer. I honestly didnt hear him say that but perhaps I didnt catch the speech in full.

Heard him say in four weeks? But others say different so I'm not sure.

He said 'from' the 11th May we will slowly open creches, nurseries and schools. 'from' not 'on". He also said classes wouldn't resume physically until september.

Don’t forget the children of key workers, who are in school or hubs. If there was no summer holiday, they would be going straight through with no break! That would surely affect their mental health. Plus the key workers, will all be needing a break after all this is over too

Well I guess we are looking at September as well.The teaching at my dds school is appalling anyway , constant stream of supply teachers so shes probably not missing much education wise anyway.