Vigilante "lockdown breakers/name and Shame fb"

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So today I learned that on our local fb groups people have set up a group and are encouraging people to go on their daily exercise and photograph people in their gardens if you feel that they could be breaking lock down rules . Then the photos and address would be posted in the public fb group and also would be sent to the police. Luckily this vigilantism was closed down really quickly but people are screaming and baying for blood from people that they assume have broken lock down.

It's almost as scary as the virus. If these pious "I quarantine better than you " people were in Europe during the 2nd world war under German occupation then I dread to think how many more people would have been killed for no reason. Instead of just looking after their own household half the nation seems to have become obsessed with curtain twitching and reporting people for any perceived flaws to an already over stretched police force.

The government caused this massive spread of disease by their inaction in dealing with it. And the government has turned it back on the people and relying on public shame to cover their ineffective treatment and prevention of spread. THEY allowed this to blossom and now for every good deed there is a bitter twisted person reporting people.

Aibu saying there should be no place for these antics when we should be focusing on our own household?

Our local FB groups were full of stuff like this but the admins have started deleting it/turning on post approval. People were posting stuff like lone dog walkers/the well spaced queue in ASDA car park/random bloke riding a bike with lots of frothing/THEY ARE LITERALLY SPREADING DEATH type comments.

One of my neighbours is utterly obsessed with my comings and goings. We have horses that we have to go to twice a day but it’s not fair that I can go out/I’m bending the rules/not in the spirit of the rules/she’s going to report me/etc. I’ve seen her complaining about me on several groups but she hasn’t posted a photo of me yet.

Tending to livestock is allowed - I would not leave them to starve to death knee deep in their own shit even if it wasn’t

Thread: "Can't I take the kids to the park"?
Answer:" no you can't, you stupid woman! don't you know what the rules are? "
What are you on about? It’s perfectly within the rules to take children to the park as long as it’s got exercise and not to have a picnic or something.

SuckingDownDarjeeling it’s fine to be in your garden as much as you want. Going into your garden is on the government approved “green” category meaning it’s safe and you can do it as much as you like. It’s actually a good thing to spend time in your garden, first because being outdoors is good for your mental and physical health, second because you’re reducing pressure on parks and other spaces people with no gardens are using for exercise. Obviously still observe social distancing ie don’t stand 2ft away from your neighbour over the fence.

People saying you can’t go into your garden are flat out making shit up.

We’ve also got people shaming businesses, that they deem non-essential, that are still open.

The guidance is clear, if you cannot work from home you can go to work provided you can maintain 2m distance.

My DH is still open - he works alone, the door is locked and he’s delivering stuff. He’s not an essential business but he does supply essential products to companies who are, including the NHS

He hasn’t been mentioned yet, but give it time

I sometimes feel.like we have been transported to East Germany and someone reporting to the stasi for daring to have too many cucumbers. Oh and make sure you clap or you will be reported also.

When this is over and, as is inevitable, at some point i'm in a discussion online (probably twitter) and someone comes out with the claptrap of all Germans being Nazis in the 30s/40s I'll remind them of how quickly people in the UK descended into this kind of behaviour. 2 bloody weeks!

@SuckingDownDarjeeling - I think it's because you'll be socially distant in your garden.
Given the tiny gardens with some new developments, that could be a bit dubious, and I really don't get the problem with sitting in local parks if they're keeping their distance. Close to me, no large parks, some have been closed by the council, others not, but warnings but up; people do seem to be taking it more sensibly than a couple of weeks ago.
A friend in a neighbouring borough has one huge park that serves a huge area - sadly closed, and few small green spaces where people can walk.
I do feel really sorry for people in flats with no outdoor space - I am fortunate, but no garden is the norm for central London .

stopping exercise at any time whilst out in public wasn’t allowed

I've just been out for a run and stopped because I was on a narrow canal towpath and had spotted a runner coming towards me, so decided to take a breather where it was a bit wider and let him come past. Next time I'll just hurtle on and pass at close distance, I am sure that's better.

My local "covid 19 support group" needs to be renamed "covid 10 curtain twitcher" group. Their latest rant is all the teens who are gathering in groups and shouldn't be allowed out for anything. But where I live everything is always the fault of teens.

Taking photographs like this is just so wrong, it makes you wonder about the mentality of these people.

I find it quite unsettling to. I imagine if we were living in the 1600s these would be the type of people who would excitedly accuse their neighbours of witchcraft and eagerly watch as they got tried by being dunked in the nearest deep pond.

But where I live everything is always the fault of teens

Yes, same here. It’s always teens “flaunting” lockdown rules. It’s mostly family groups out for walks/lone teens walking down the street

A friend of mine posted a photo about a group of teens the other day. Lots of frothing in the comments, they should be arrested/fine their parents/call the police/etc. Their mother commented to say they were siblings, all living in the same house, taking their dog for a walk and she got torn to shreds.

“I wonder if it's the same in other countries. Are people just as willing to line up to report each other?“

I can speak for NZ - we have jumped up twats here too. The other day a woman on FB reported two other women “to the authorities” for arranging to transfer a kettle between two households.

A local took a photo of my three children and posted it on an FB group. Feral kids out and about with no parents watching them. I’ve seen these kids out everyday walking up and down etc etc

No you dick, what you’ve seen is my teenager walking my two little ones to school and collecting them whilst I go to fucking work in A&E. context is everything

I can’t believe how quick some have been to turn snitch, it’s amazed me really.

Don’t get me wrong a group of 20 having a bbq on a beach, I can kind of understand wanting to report that as it is a group gathering and they won’t all live together BUT someone on another thread on here yesterday posted a pic of a mum/dad/ and baby on a swing in an EMPTY playground now I know it’s not really allowed but this family probably live together and nobody else was in the playground so I couldn’t get worked up enough to photograph it.

Someone on my village Facebook group posted a pic she took from her car window on her daily car “patrol” of X a man in 80’s coming out the shop holding a milk, a soup and news paper with the caption “ was this an essential shop” Cow bitch that she is. X lives across the road from the shop, the shop is currently doing only 1 person in at a time ( you queue outside, use the pump of alcohol gel before you go in, 1 person in at a time) so he would of seen from his window nobody was waiting to go in so wasn’t going to come in to contact with anyone but the shop assistant. Is this what we’ve come too, posting pics of an 80 year old wanting milk for a cup of tea????

Oh and the Facebook posts saying Can you all stay home so I can see my mother/father/ brother again at some point this year 🙄🙄 no Sarah people are going out deliberately to stop you ever seeing your family again

Of course children can be taken to the park for exercise and fresh air! They must stay in their own family groups and be made to socially distance from others.

Going into your own garden for as long as you like each day is also fine. Chances are that you are still a minimum of two metres away from your neighbours or any passers by.

I go out for my walk each day and I will spend as long as I wish in my own garden. If anyone tries to photograph me against my will and post it on social media without my permission I will probably rip them a new arsehole.

I put this on another thread.
Apparently 1 in every 30 people was a stasi informer, you can really tell how easy it must have been to recruit.

It's very rude to take photos of people and put them on the internet.

While there are some people out there flouting rules to a dangerous level, most people are just trying to follow them as best they can and don't deserve to be condemned for small slip ups or things that others deem "inappropriate".

My husband's Uncle runs a funeral directors, he's seen a bigger rise in suicide victims than Covid-19 victims since the lockdown started. Mental health is a serious issue that these public shamers seem to have no consideration for.

I can only assume it's people who had very small, local, dreary lives before all this started. Sane, engaged, worldly, outward looking people don't just suddenly flip like this.