Vigilante "lockdown breakers/name and Shame fb"

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So today I learned that on our local fb groups people have set up a group and are encouraging people to go on their daily exercise and photograph people in their gardens if you feel that they could be breaking lock down rules . Then the photos and address would be posted in the public fb group and also would be sent to the police. Luckily this vigilantism was closed down really quickly but people are screaming and baying for blood from people that they assume have broken lock down.

It's almost as scary as the virus. If these pious "I quarantine better than you " people were in Europe during the 2nd world war under German occupation then I dread to think how many more people would have been killed for no reason. Instead of just looking after their own household half the nation seems to have become obsessed with curtain twitching and reporting people for any perceived flaws to an already over stretched police force.

The government caused this massive spread of disease by their inaction in dealing with it. And the government has turned it back on the people and relying on public shame to cover their ineffective treatment and prevention of spread. THEY allowed this to blossom and now for every good deed there is a bitter twisted person reporting people.

Aibu saying there should be no place for these antics when we should be focusing on our own household?

It’s sickening isn’t it. We have one guy who has done this to our local WhatsApp group. He’s an idiot.

I sometimes feel.like we have been transported to East Germany and someone reporting to the stasi for daring to have too many cucumbers. Oh and make sure you clap or you will be reported also.

A lot of the 'enforcers' are that dumb they are making up their own interpretation of the rules, rather than what they actually say.

We have this locally, normally goes something like this:

-posts photo of sensible spaced line and a comment about morons
-someone points out it’s a sensible spaced line and they are buying food
-loads of them start up ‘stay at home’, ‘are you fucking thick’, ‘staythe fuck at home’

Yesterday someone posted a picture of clear kids faces on the park in a group with three adults, someone objected to photographing kids outside and posting their images as well as pointing out it could be a household and she was jumped on.

It’s really really scary

The government caused this massive spread of disease by their inaction in dealing with it. And the government has turned it back on the people and relying on public shame to cover their ineffective treatment and prevention of spread. THEY allowed this to blossom and now for every good deed there is a bitter twisted person reporting people.
You are no better than the people you're complaining about. Don't forget to take your tin foil hat off before you spontaneously combust.

"The government caused this massive spread of disease by their inaction in dealing with it. And the government has turned it back on the people and relying on public shame to cover their ineffective treatment and prevention of spread. THEY allowed this to blossom and now for every good deed there is a bitter twisted person reporting people.
You are no better than the people you're complaining about. Don't forget to take your tin foil hat off before you spontaneously combust"

Last time I checked, careers are key workers and can go about their role providing they are not displaying any symptoms etc. So I am totally within the current legislation. But sure... I'm wearing a tin foil hat because our prime minister played this down desire it playing out live in China and Italy and said all we had to do was wash our hands and sing happy birthday and we would be fine. Worked really well that didn't it?

This is the thing I hate the most about this situation. Our NextDoor is full of people hysterically complaining about "other people" and getting stuck in about what they should and shouldn't do. It's incredibly repetitive too. I wonder if they can read as it's all been said multiple times

-loads of them start up ‘stay at home’, ‘are you fucking thick’, ‘staythe fuck at home’

There are people all over MN saying the exact same thing.

The point is that most people have no idea about what other people's daily lives entail. We are ask going about our business normally. Then we al get locked in and have nothing to do but watch people go by. That is when it starts getting bitter and hateful.

This has got me today. I saw quite a few posts about selfish people flouting the rules going for a walk. I thought we were allowed the walk for exercise? I take my children round the block. We can't go into parks as they are all shut. I take hand sanitizer just in case. All the people we see are polite and either we or they move well out of each others path and I make sure my kids don't sit on benches or touch hand rails. Is that bad? Am I flouting the rules? We don't have a big house and our garden is tiny. I feel like we can't literally leave the house from now on

Of course you can still exercise daily. That has not been withdrawn.
The hard of thinking seem to assume that the "stay at home under the same guidance as before and don't all pile on to the beach/beauty spot/Cornwall/Lake District just cos it's sunny" message this weekend means we are all supposed to literally not even put a foot over the threshold. Wrong. Bet the stupid fuckers will be out "to be seen" clapping like North Korean seals on Thursday tho, gotta do that Virtue Signal

I take food to my shielded mum who lives alone most days. I leave the bag at her door, step back waaay more than 2m and we have a little chat. The other day I took my DSs with me and they were running up the street while I was chatting. No one else on the pavement but us. We were tutted by some busybody on a bike.

I'm pretty sure the rules are stay at home (and in your garden) and only leave the house to:

Get food, essentials and medication

Take one form of exercise a day, in your own area

Travel to essential workplaces where you can't work at home

To aid/help a vulnerable person (provided you show no symptoms)

So OP, you leave your house for the fourth reason, you're doing nothing wrong. Not all vulnerable people have employed carers and I'm pretty sure if you felt hot, got a cough or any other symptoms you would self isolate

On a local FB group yesterday a woman posted that she had been out clapping at 3pm and only 2 other houses were out. She demanded to know where everyone else was.

I have her a 😂 face.

The funniest photo,well short video,was on yesterdays news.It was of a couple in a park somewhere,in the long grass.having sex. Is this allowed ha ha.

I haven’t been out for over two weeks - not because I’m worried about catching the virus but because I find myself living in Royston Vasey. Apparently some self important, local vigilante who misunderstands the law has even put signs everywhere telling others not to come to our village.
Thank you, I’m heartened by this thread, to realise there is rational life out there as whilst confined and reading other media I am only seeing ‘how stupid the average person is and realise half of them are stupider than that’.

Ah yes. We have several of these in my wee town. I've already felt their self-righteous wrath over an alleged (made-up) incident that had the local ne'er-do-wells frothing manically.
The worst of these harpies is currently bombarding our local pages with EVERY imagined breaking of her version of the rules. The best bit has been her rants about people walking down 'her' river and not picking up dog poop. Her river? How dare anyone else walk there!

I take great pleasure in continuing to go out running and waving cheerily at her and her narrow-minded, half-witted curtain twitching friends.
These people have always been there, this lockdown is simply driving them crazier.

Of course there should be no place for these self styled vigilantes. Most of them are as thick as shit too. They make the rules up to suit themselves.

I'm afraid it is true that you see a fair number of them posting on here too.

These people are insane.

I have a woman who declares herself a local celebrity who runs miles and miles daily around the area and then comes back to do a report about how many 'idiots' she saw that day. These include people of different ethnicities who she believes cannot belong to the same household, people with 'lots of kids' on a field, adults chatting to each other on the parks, people walking past her and not immediately throwing themselves into the nearest hedge to be 2 metres away, dogs being walked during the day (apparently this is selfish as the dog will want to greet other dogs which brings humans closer than 2 metres) - and my all time favourite - two neighbours having BBQ in their front gardens and chatting to each other while FaceTiming other family. Apparently this was enough to report to the police, who actually turned up, and then fined both households even though they are owned and lived in by the same bloody family!!!!

I wonder if it's the same in other countries. Are people just as willing to line up to report each other?

It's one thing to report a full on party with people coming and going or something, but quite another if you're curtain twitching and checking when and where your neighbours are at all times. That is very odd behaviour and as others have said quite chilling.

You can really see how situations like East Germany or the Second World War end up happening. People are very quick to put the boot in.

It's worrying isn't it. People are angry and have no-one to blame so are becoming like Stasi seeking out the imagined 'saboteur'.

The Nazis never really went away. They just went very quiet.

Posting pics of people who are just obeying the rules is completely out of order.

If they were only shaming people who were clearly breaking the rules (eg parties, public bbqs/sunbathing) I might have more sympathy.

Our small town neighbourhood chat Facebook group was closed down last week for this very reason. It has just degenerated into a semi literate moaning, complaining and reporting forum.

We had someone take a video of people and then put it on Twitter under the pseudonym of an enforcer.

It got retweeted by a local radio station.

You can see how the Stasi and other organisations got people to enforce each other.

It's the people moaning "they don't normally go for these daily exercise walks, why should they now!" Well, how about because I normally ensure my baby gets her fresh air by walking into town to go to her baby groups, or walking near my mums house, or shopping in the local city or days out elsewhere and will therefore only normally walk locally maybe once a week. But since I can't do those things (except the walk into town which seems pointless if we are not headed somewhere in particular) we are exploring the local area more, and it's one of the few perks of this whole sh*tshow. And my husband is joining us as he is not used to beings at on a computer all day inside, he is usually darting around his classroom or the playground. So yes, we are going to be out on the streets of the local area more while we are still aloud, following all rules and I am going to continue to do so even if you think we are all supposed to become hermits until the government says that we can even do that anymore (due to the idiots not following the rules).