What is this denial about cannabis ?

[9ofpentangles]

That it is a completely harmless drug? There is so much research on this from reputable sources

Growing it indoors is advisable in the UK to control the environment. It's a tropical plant. Where I live people grow it in their gardens but I doubt you could manage that in the UK.

I am a healthy weight. I exercise regularly and eat a balanced diet, and I dont have any medical conditions, so when Friday rolls around and my DH suggests a big greasy take away, I say "hell yeah". I eat it and enjoy it. Then Saturday morning comes and I head out for a run, and have muesli for breakfast. Life continues as normal. I don't get fat, I don't develop a health condition and I don't end up eating take away every night. I eat normally.

The thing that some people on this thread don't seem to understand is that for a lot of people, this is what their marijuana use looks like. They dont have mental health problems, they are generally happy and fullfilled, they have a nice family life and a good career, and then their mate texts them one day and says "hey, heard your kids are at their grandma's this weekend, fancy coming over to watch a film and have some space cakes?" And they say "sure, sounds fun!". And so they do it, they have a good giggle with their mates, and then they wake up the next morning and continue with their normal lives. They don't develop mental health problems, they don't start doing it every day, and they don't become a shadow of their former self. They just carry on as normal, and probably don't even think about it again for weeks or months, maybe longer.

I know that this isn't everyone's experience. I know that for some people they get addicted they have mental health problems and it ruins their lives. But we need to accept that this isn't the case for everyone. Just like it's not the case that everyone who has ever eaten a greasy Chinese take away gets addicted to junk food and gets fat.

It's a tropical plant

No it's not. Genetic analysis suggests it originated in the Himalayas, but it's been adapted (probably by human intervention) to grow anywhere temperate. It will (and does) happily grow outdoors in the UK.

As a crop, it grows annually, needs very little attention, and fixes the soil so fits into crop rotation. In Tudor times, farmers were required - by law - to grow so much cannabis as the Navy could use all the hempen rope they could get.

You can also get oil from the seeds (which are totally edible).

Hemp for Victory as our US cousins once said.

No it's not. Genetic analysis suggests it originated in the Himalayas

I've seen the stuff growing wild in Nepal. It's everywhere! Ditch weed, mind you, but I suppose it all was once upon a time.

most of us who drink smoke or eat too much fried food are honest about the risks.

Are we?

It's a horrible drug and responsible for so much apathy in adults who never go on to have a successful career and or relationship.

Is it a problem if you don't have a successful relationship?

I've seen the stuff growing wild in Nepal. It's everywhere! Ditch weed, mind you, but I suppose it all was once upon a time.

Well it's arguably one of mankinds oldest domesticated and cultivated crops 8000-10000 years old. And recent evidence shows it was most definitely being cultivated as a drug, as well as foodstuff and fibres.

@NiceLegsShameAboutTheFace

Absolutely, I have never seen anyone deny til they were blue in the face that there is no relationship between smoking and lung cancer

I have never seen anyone deny til they were blue in the face that there is no relationship between smoking and lung cancer

Really? Do a shift on the respiratory ward at your local hospital. You will hear plenty of patients who currently have lung cancer denying that it is in any way related to them smoking.

Agree op. Everyone i know always talks about how safe it is and how it shouldnt even be classed as a drug. You see it online everywhere too look at the whole 420 trend.

Dp says the same even though in one breath he admits his paranoia came about due to smoking weed all the time as a teen then in the next breath he says it shouldnt be classed as a drug. (Although he believes only adults should smoke it as even he agrees it fucks up teens brains.)

tobacco smokers are also 50:50 with denial. Like my mate. Shes younger than me and smokes like a chimney. She constantly has antibiotics for chest infections and every time her dr tells her its due to her smoking and every time she comes on facebook bitching about how nasty her doctors are and its 100% not due to smoking why she always has a lung problem and they need to figure it out. Any time someone suggests giving up smoking she goes hysterical at them.

Everyone i know always talks about how safe it is and how it shouldnt even be classed as a drug.

Everyone ?

Imstillskanking

Well said.

Everyone i know always talks about how safe it is and how it shouldnt even be classed as a drug.

The ones I know say it shouldn’t be an illegal drug and this continuance is more costly than legalisation and taxation.

Cannabis will definitely grow outdoors un the UK. Here's the (rather amusing) evidence: www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/new-pot-bloom-cannabis-plants-found-5581488.amp

Yep, you can grow it in the back garden. It's called a guerrilla grow I believe.

Not tried it myself yet!

Yep, you can grow it in the back garden. It's called a guerrilla grow I believe.

Er, if it's in your back garden it most assuredly is not a "guerilla grow". Stealth being the main thing. (Mind you, I'll admit I have no idea how big your back garden is ...).

Quite aside from the fact that that cannabis is quite a distinctive plant - very hard to mistake (although the UK police keep trying ...) once it gets into flower, the smell is also quite distinctive. (The closest thing to cannabis is stinging nettles, I guess ....)

Most UK Guerilla Growers try to find a well secluded spot, and it's 2 visits. One to plant. One to harvest. And hope (a) no one else found it before you could harvest and (b) the plants weren't pollinated by wild pollen. Pharmaceutical cannabis is harvested from unfertilised female plants. (Hence the sometimes name for cannabis as "sensimilla" meaning "without seed" in Spanish ....)

I wonder if there's an opening for a UK Cannabis tutorial on Youtube ? After all, we are widely acknowledged as world leaders.

Alright, snotty

Yes EVERYONE i know. And MOST people i know smoke it.

It’s a lot stronger now than in used to be back on the 90s!

Is it though?

Like anything else, alcohol can ruin your life if you let it.
Look at all the threads that were on here and other sm about drinking every night. Parents drinking wine or gin every night, could easily lead to alcoholism.
A spliff a night never did anyone any harm, maybe smoking 1/2 an 0z a day probably would.

It's a horrible drug and responsible for so much apathy in adults who never go on to have a successful career and or relationship.

It depends what you term "Successful", this means different things to different people.
"success" ito money, earning potential and buying stuff, just doesn't appeal to many.
they see/find success in many other areas of life.

It’s a lot stronger now than in used to be back on the 90s!

Unless a statement like that is also accompanied with details of what "strength" is measured by, it's just so much noise on the 'net.

People like to point at the %age of THC, but then quietly forget to mention the actual forms being discussed (hash, herb, oil ...) ... and old hippies will tell you there is nothing as strong as some of the hashish that was around in the 60s.

Now if people were talking about THC deltas and ratio to CBD, it would be more interesting ...

The thing that some people on this thread don't seem to understand is that for a lot of people, this is what their marijuana use looks like. They dont have mental health problems, they are generally happy and fullfilled, they have a nice family life and a good career, and then their mate texts them one day and says "hey, heard your kids are at their grandma's this weekend, fancy coming over to watch a film and have some space cakes?"

Ok but that is not why a large sub section of young males do it. And they are always the first to point out the ills of alcohol without seeing the irony of what they are doing.
Of course if you have the wherewithal to gave a nice family life and career having a smoke or getting a bit merry on a Friday, it won’t matter.

Being 15 and doing something illegal even as an adult is going to be a problem.

Of course if you have the wherewithal to gave a nice family life and career having a smoke or getting a bit merry on a Friday, it won’t matter.

A US writer once noted that "The War on Drugs" (which it seems the drugs have won) had a very different perspective depending on your class and colour. Naice white middle class people demanded ever tougher "crackdowns" on the black kids using drugs, whilst simultaneously excusing their own kids when they used drugs. With a legal system that obliged them.

That was 30 years ago.

I have been reading about cannabis for treatment of issues with SEN needs and anxiety and have found some compelling evidence - I have attached a post for anyone interested in exploring this further

While I am personally completely against drugs, as an epileptic I have considered new methods of treatment so if anyone has had any success stories I would love to hear from you.

Fantastic read for anyone interested

www.cannabishealthnews.co.uk/subscribe/

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-46191931